They should have been suspicious as hell of Michael.
Michael, they only have two guns? What kind? We know for a FACT that they have at least five - Bluebeard’s Luger, whomever got Sawyer from the jungle during the standoff, and the guns they took from Jack, Sawyer, and Locke.
Michael, what kind of guns were they? Because if they don’t match up with the ones we KNOW they have, then they have even more.
They’re dressed in tattered clothing? Huh. Any of them have a big beard? Because if there’s no big beard either bluebeard isn’t in costume and these aren’t the same people, or they’re spending their time running around without their costumes.
Again, nobody asks the tough questions.
Anna Lucia was a totally irritating, unlikable bitch. But at least she…took the situation seriously. Yes, she was a little too paranoid - but at least she recognized that she was in a dangerous situation and acted like it. She doesn’t act like a dazed moron stumbling through the jungle.
Although of course we can’t really trust anything Michael says he saw until we know more, one thing he said struck me. Taking his report at face value, I agree that it’s likely the dirty, barefooted, tipi-living people he saw are a separate group from the Zeke-following research people, and that the Losties have found themselves caught in a struggle between them. It also seems likely that the Zeke-group is manipulating the Losties into doing their dirty work and going to wipe out the tipi-group, sort of like that one episode of Next Generation where the crew suffered memory loss and that one mysterious new officer dude showed up to steer our heroes into believing their fake history and going off to attack that other civilization and Picard wised up when he recognized how weak that civilization was and how badly his ship would overpower them, and damn I am such a geek. Anyway, like that. The Zeke-ers are using Michael to prod the Losties into marching off and attacking the Barefoots, for some reason.
The thing that Michael said that struck me, though, is that “some of them are old,” i.e. the Barefoots. Which makes me wonder whether their group represents two generations, an older group that was originally stranded a long while ago, plus their children after they accepted their fate and settled down and started to reproduce. Michael says “they’re animals,” which may reflect a reversion to a more primitive survival state, or it may reflect a bias he’s absorbed from the manipulating Zeke-ers.
I have to say I was disappointed that Locke would fall for Henry’s “we were coming for you, you’re one of the good ones” routine. Locke has been established as such a sharp cookie, able to see through the transparent tactics of his fellow Losties, that it seems out of character for him to accept or even be affected by such an obvious attempt to confuse and distract him.
Oh, and the speculations about Henry being an important person in the Hanso group, and possibly Hanso himself, de-aged somehow, get a small boost from this episode; Michael was clearly intimidated by the man, who was staring back like Michael was little more than a bug. Whoever Henry is, it seems obvious that none of what’s happened has been a surprise for him; he may have let himself be captured so he could get a look at the Losties from the inside, and all along planned to have Michael show up and spring him.
Pretty good installment. We seem to be building major momentum going into the finale.
Are the writers just playing with us, or is there some signifcance to how many times people say “We’re lost” or “We’re not lost”? Last night it was Libby and Hurley as they were looking for the beach, and in the previous episode it was Rose and Bernard as they were driving towards Uluru (Ayer’s Rock).
I agree that the Lostaways should have been suspicious as hell of Michael’s story. And not just Kate-- she told Jack about the costumes in the medical hatch. And why didn’t Jack organize a group to go to that hatch and do some investigative work? Their almost complete lack of curiosity is the single most annoying aspect of ths plot. I can live with hallucinations, even mind reading smoke mosters, but people just don’t behave so nonchalantly in these types of circumstances.
Oh, and you can bet you’re bottom dollar that the preview of Echo falling off a cliff is either a dream or something. I never trust previews like that…
Did anybody else think that it was kind of poor writing to have Sawyer discover that his gun was gone when he did? I mean, wouldn’t he have noticed it wasn’t in the back of his pants, after he put his pants back on out in the woods after Ana Lucia left?
Who, Locke? The man who let his father con him out of a kidney? The man so desperate for affirmation that he later did his father’s dirty work for him, at the cost of his engagement? The man who discovers the Hatch and keeps it secret for weeks, even at the cost of another survivors life, but who gets petulant and whiny when Jack doesn’t immediately tell him everything he is doing? The man so convinced of his “destiny” that he was willing to let a smoke tentacle monster drag him off into a pit and who is apparently perfectly willing to spend the rest of his life pushing a button every 108 minutes? That Locke? :dubious:
Not-Henry knows exactly what Locke’s button is and how to push it.
The tossing the manuscript onto the fire was Jack’s way of putting Sawyer on an active defensive and intimidating him. It was equivalent to gorilla chest thumping.
What I learned from this episode was- If you are a regular cast member on LOST, don’t get a DUI, they will kill your ass off!
I’m going to nitpick a bit to add some detail…also, I don’t think this needs to be boxed since everyone’s been posting about it anyway.
When Michael got the gun, he turned away from AL and looked down at it with a pained look on his face. Then turned to her, said “I’m sorry,” then shot her (once? twice? don’t remember), I believe in the chest. She looked surprised, then clearly died, so it was a pretty instant kill. As someone earlier speculated, probably a heart shot.
After AL dies, you hear “Michael?” off-screen. Michael turns and shoots Libby (who is carrying a bunch of blankets in front of her) 2 or 3 times, seemingly out of panic. After she falls, Michael looks frightened, surprised. He wasn’t expecting her. I’d think if she survived the shots, she might be screaming about now (especially a gut shot - argh), but perhaps that’s creative license.
Michael opens the vault. Henry rises slowly and faces him. They look at each other solemnly, it’s clear they know each other. Michael no longer looks scared, but determined. I don’t remember the words exchanged but I’ll trust Bob on this. Then Michael, still looking at Henry, points the gun at his own left shoulder (or arm) and the gunshot is heard as the screen goes dark.
Well, despite her faults, apparently AL was so good in the sack … er, grass that she made him forget about the other gun in his pants.
I rewatched the scene with Jack’s dad and I think that woman could be Claire’s mom. She is probably old enough and she did look a lot like Claire. Claire is about 20 and if her mom was pretty young when she had her she could be 40ish or younger. So I guess we’d better hope that Jack and Claire never hook up. Eww!
I too, do not believe the preview of Eko falling. If they use it in a preview it’s likely to be misleading. So it may be a dream, vision, hallucination or he does fall but lands on a pile of floatation devices from the plane or Hurley and it breaks his fall.
Has anyone figured out what directions Bluebeard’s others were in and were they really in the same direction as the side of the island that the Tailies came from? That was the first thing that made me suspicious of Michael. It seemed that when the Tailies were traveling to the Losties they were traveling screen right, so they were coming from the left, when Jack and company went looking for Michael the first time and encountered Bluebeard they went screen right and BB and his crew showed up from the right. So it seems to me that they were in two different directions, i.e. the Losties were situated between the Tailies oridinal camp and BB’s group. Also when Kate, Claire and Rouseau went looking for the medical hatch they seemed to go straight inland (perpendicular to the other directions). Granted it’s hard to tell the way they film it, we really have no idea what direction is which but it seems like they would try to keep it in some sort of order.
Maybe I need to look at that hatch door map again.
I’m pretty sure he only shot Libby once. In fact, he turned and shot so fast that I’m certain he didn’t know who he was shooting until after it was over.
The showed the gun clearly near a shirt…whilest they were ‘tapping out’…
They show AL getting dressed and a sawyer hunk pose (with pants, no shirt)
AL leaves the scene, not getting close (again) to Sawyer…
So you’d think he’d realize the gun was missing when he went to pick it up to begin with.
Well, apparently the Island frowns on sex outside of marriage, at least for women. Only two women have done it and both were killed almost immediately afterwards. This argues for the idea that Libby is only wounded-- kind of a warning to her not to get any ideas.
Well, I felt he shot AL once, through the center of the chest and likely the heart, you could see the squib go off just a few inches below the neckline of her top. Otherwise it was hard to see because of the black top she had on but to further emphasize it, AL looked at that spot of her chest and promptly died.
Libby said Michael and he turned and fired, then he fired a second time. She took a little longer to stare at him then she crumpled to the ground. But it looked like he shot her through the blankets that she was holding against her abdomen.
Libby may not be dead yet but gut shot in the middle of nowhere means she won’t last long. She’ll probably just say Michael’s name a few times before she dies and they’ll think she was just concerned about him. Then Hurley will feel even worse because he’ll think she was really in love with Michael.
MIchael seemed very cold-blooded about killing AL but Libby seemed to bother him more. He may have been prepared for killing AL, perhaps that was another part of his mission?
