He had gone back to the lavatory. I presume that when the turbulence started, he sat down and strapped in to a nearby seat in the back.
He went to the bathroom at the back because Charlie was in the front. Just before the turbulence hit Rose was looking towards the back. I’m betting once it started shaking like that he just sat in the first empty seat he came to and buckled up.
Huh? I saw her fire her gun, and then shannon clutching her wound. Seemed pretty clear.
I was another person thinking Shannon’s apparent death might be a fake by the producers. But one of them did an interview this week and said she really was killed.
He also said fans of the show shouldn’t be trying to read so much into minor details and that many of them don’t mean anything. Well, whose fault is it if we do?
So, do most of you like Ana-Lucia any better after this episode? I’m still on the fence.
Both times that the tailies have encountered them, they came at night, and took them by surprise because the tailies did not post a guard. We saw no evidence of their uber-sneakiness or any other uber-mad-skillz. In fact, they appear to be fairly inept. Definetly not worthy of the reputation we have been lead to believe they should have.
While I was never so firmly on the I-hate-Ana-Lucia bandwagon as some of you have loudly proclaimed to be-- it’s not so much a matter of “I like her better” as I definitely feel I understand her and am more sympathetic to her character a bit better now. She was even more reluctant to be thrown in a leadership role than Jack was, she felt sick and guilty over what happened after the second raid that took the kids when she was talked into staying on the beach; was forced to kill an Other with a rock and found the list that suggested they were betrayed; that her gut instincts told her to distrust Nathan and that turned out to be wrong; and when she finally tumbled on to Goodwin being the bad guy and she had to kill him, too. She still doesn’t have the full confidence of her group the way Jack does over his lostaways.
I liked Mr. Eko. His slow turn to be a warrior was nicely done, particularly his terrifically understated 40 days of silence after he killed three Others with a freaking rock, as well as his scene in the bunker clutching that Bible he found. I’m much more intrigued by his potential backstory than anyone else’s from the tailies (except maybe Libby’s.)
I’m still not sure whether or not Libby isn’t somehow involved in this.
The absence of pre-Island character developing flashbacks in this episode was nice, if a little disconcerting. I was hoping for a few scenes of the tailies in the plane, and maybe a little more concrete background on Ana Lucia.
I agree The Others definitely got the short end of the stick in this episode as being built up as a credible threat. Mr. Eko took out, what, three by himself the first night? Ana Lucia killed one, too, at the second raid? With rocks! Not even with the weapons they made! The only thing that seems to point to The Other’s ‘mad skillz’ is their unsettling ability to appear and disappear into the jungle while sprinting off with nine people. But heck, we didn’t even hear the roar of the Tree Crashing Monster or than damned eerie whispering the whole time!
I understand her a little more. She has more depth that just the Royal Bitch she was portrayed before, she’s scared and trying to hold a dwindling group together.
We know the little boy with the teddy bear was not Walt, but was the one Jin and Mistereko saw.
The last four minutes were a rip-off, though. Extended episode my ass. They just added on some previous scenes and made me miss the beginning of Law and Order (although from what I’ve heard, it wasn’t one of their better episodes. I have it on tape.)
The problem is fans who can’t discern when the producers are actually trying to tell you something. “US Army” written on a knife is something to ponder. Whether the girl who took a bullet to the chest is dead, is not.
They practically made press releases about it last week: “Shannon killed on Lost” was a headline at Yahoo news.
Anyway, I was getting worried they were really going to string out these “tailie” episodes, so I really felt satisfied that they brought it up to “now” in this episode. Nothing too superfluous. No redundant flashbacks. Great opening scene.
My favorites episode this year, for sure.
I didn’t sense *any * reluctance on her part to taking command. Just a complete lack of skill at it. She seems to be from the “Growl at them until they do what you tell them to do because by god you know better than them” school of leadership.
Dis anyone else notice that Mr. Eko didn’t speak for 40 days? Is he going to turn into a saviour of some sort? (qv Jesus and/or Mohammed spending 40 days in the wilderness)
A couple of things we did learn:
- the Dharma logo in the hatch was an arrow pointing “up”.
- The chest contained a blanket, a bible, a glass eye and a radio.
- The US Army Knife… I dont think that is much to ponder, but I’ll give credit to the post above, that may be something we need to know.
Any good gamer recognizes the above to be absolutely neccessary… that glass eye will come in handy when:
The captain from the other’s boat comes to claim it
CPR seems to work better on this island then elsewhere… I’ll give the good Doctor his props with Rose, as he would definitely be the ‘best’ person to do it right… but the scene with AL… she didn’t check the airway, she didn’t position the neck/head properly… basically, she got lucky.
I also took it that the ‘others’ were taking select people based on some criteria… I don’t think for nefarious reasons much beyond potentially creating a control group or some such…
What’s more interesting to me is that the “others” never took anyone from the losties… Claire being the exception.
Did they not ‘know’ about the losties, or are they just all “bad”?
I noticed that too. I do think they knew about our guys from Ethan much like the others know about AL’s group through Goodwin. So the only “good” person from that group was Claire and her baby. And Walt, though he may have been taken for other reasons.
Interesting.
Nah, he’s the Tailies equivalent to Locke. Take from that what you will. His forty days of silence were to mourn the “Others” that he killed and they are for spiritual reflection.
Notice how quikly he has become The Island Warrior (like Locke.)
If you’re a Trekkie/Trekker, you probably remember him from TNG episode of The Royale. He plays the assistant manager of the casino.
She did seem a bit suspicious when she was talking to Eko and AL at different times. It seemed like she might have been trying to spur AL into doing something to Nathan. Then again she did say that she’s a clinical psychologist and they tend to be weird, so maybe she was just being a normal psychologist?
If the Island can make the crippled walk, it can certainly start up a stopped heart.
Fighting infections, not so good, apparently.
It wasn’t CPR that AL was performing, it was chest compressions to remove airway obstructions- think Heimlich maneuver done on the ground. You push on the chest to force something out of the windpipe or lungs, not to restart the heart. It just looks like CPR.
I got dizzy watching this on my DVR. When they faded to black, that’s usually the signal to skip past commercials, but this episode had so many fades to the next day it was hard to focus.
I’ll give you that as a possibility… except the “water shower” didnt happen on response to a compression… and I would think “attmepting to breathe but blocked” would look different… She still broke the basic CPR procedures for the situation.
As for their seeming fear during the daytime… by this point you can assume they have been running on less and less sleep, and possibly hearing voices… but none of that was shown… They were clearly very afraid and willing to shoot at anyone wearing a pink shirt shouting WAAAAAALLLLTTTT!
He’s got 126 IMDB TV listings, including Holland Masters in Angel (head of Wolfram & Hart), and recurring roles on E.R. and LA Law. Great bit-part actor. Comes in, does his stuff, and lets the big stars shine.