I liked this episode. Good flashback, and I’m betting that Cassie is playing a “long con” with Kate. That would parallel some kind of con Juliet is playing in real time.
It did seem odd that the TCM couldn’t go over the fence. And it appears that Kate has figured out that the banyan trees are a safe area-- we’ve seen people hide in them successfully before.
I assume they’re getting out of Otherville since they have no idea whether or not Ben and crew will come back looking for them at some point.
Juliet and Kate mud wresting.
Hurley continues to have amazing insights into characters. Gotta love the guy!
I assume that Locke has been (at least temporarily) Otherized by Ben so he (Ben) can figure out how Locke is “in tune with The Island”. And what happened to dear ol’ dad-- he must have been taken along, too, right?
I, for one, will be very disappointed if anything’s been done to Locke at all to make him part of the group. I like the idea of Locke just deciding, of his own free will, to hang with the Others instead of the Losties, as opposed to being brainwashed or blackmailed or assimilated or whatever; it makes him a more interesting character and the situation a more interesting situation.
I agree, and I didn’t mean to imply that he was brainwashed or anything. But I do think he’s being manipulated by Ben in some way, and that Ben will get the better of Locke in the long run.
Wile E also mentioned that it may because Jack was stuck with the gas in a confined area for a long time, while Juliet and Kate were moved into the middle of a jungle.
You know, I think you’re right, but I kind of hope you’re not. The Others have had this supernatural ability to predict the actions of others since we’ve met them; it would make them more dramatically interesting if they showed signs of falliability - if Locke resisted Ben’s manipulative attempts, or even turned them back around on Ben.
To a lesser degree, even Sayid, Sun, and Jin put a wrench in The Other’s plans. And Alex too… his own daughter! I’m not sure they’re so great at predicting people’s actions. Colleen sure blew it.
Juliet ‘said’ it, but that doesn’t mean that is what happened.
Juliet had the handcuff key, and she ‘knew’ it when she needed to… therefore she was part of the handcuffing and moving to the clearing.
Jack’s door was open, and tehre would’ve been a hole in the window if a canister was thrown thru it. (allowing clean air, yada yada yada)
I enjoyed all the parts on the island… but the flashback seemed to be 100% pointless. As many others have commented recently, we already know a lot about the main characters. Flashbacks that flesh a teeny bit out but don’t offer real insights are very disappointing compared to the major things we learned from flashbacks back in season 1.
This part was great - I was watching him try to gut the fish with my girlfriend and I commented about it being weird how he didn’t know how to do that yet and he’s been on the island for like 3 months now. Then 1 minute later Hurley says almost the exact same thing to him. I cracked up.
The 815ers won’t move to the village because it might be booby-trapped by the Others, the way Mikhail’s house was.
From a narrative point of view, they won’t move to the village because then the show will seem much less like a show about people marooned on a desert island.
I’m wondering if that village is a housing area from one of Oahu’s several shut-down military bases. When I lived on Oahu I briefly dated someone who lived in Navy housing at Barbers Point, and her neighborhood looked just like the Others’ village.
One of the reasons they have given in the past for not leaving the beach is that they want to be visible to and to be able to see any rescue boats which may happen by. That was the reason given during the brief attempt by some of them to move to the caves anyway.
And I suspect the concern that the Others may come back at any point would also put a damper on their enthusiasm for moving.
It showed that like Locke–Kate feels betrayed by a parent.
It connects Sawyer and Kate.
I had one or two more points, but I have forgotten what they were; nevertheless, 1 and 2 are pretty significant given recent revelations.
Oh yeah, it also sort of established a moral relativism of luck and fate. As we saw in Desmond’s time-travel flashback. Sometimes events are necessary, and sometimes whether consequences are good or bad depends on perspective. If Sawyer hadn’t conned her, she wouldn’t have helped Kate see her mom. And if Kate hadn’t seen her mom, things might have gone differently at the hospital, and if things had gone differently, maybe Kate wouldn’t have been on the flight.
