Grrr!
Some of us did, anyway–I knew she had Daddy issues, anyway. Ok, so it underscored and recast the information in light of the Ben/Locke discussion last episode.
Heh. Forgot about that, even though it was mentioned on a recent podcast. I forget, was that more of a sighting, or was it more involved? At any rate, I’d say Sawyer eating at the diner and his con-buddy/victim/mother-of-his-child entering Kate’s life, getting arrested for her, and confirming that there really was a baby is a qualitatively different connection from whatever we got from Sawyer eating at the diner. YMMV. 
Yeah. There’s definitely more conning going on. Jack/Juliet is an obvious pairing for the con based on Juliet’s bullshit story about getting gassed and left and Jack’s somewhat-too-quick grasp of the left behind scenario and Juliet’s admission that she knew where Sayid was. Probably too obvious.
With all due respect, what in the world would Cassidy be trying to get out of Kate? That logic doesn’t really make much sense… Kate is a homeless fugitive driving a crappy car going by a pseudonym without a penny to her name. If Cassidy was interested in her $60, she’d have run away at the gas station. If she was interested in a reward from the FBI she’d have gotten it when she could.
Oh yeah, and the biggest reveal in the flashback was definitely that Cassidy did, in fact, have a baby. I was wondering whether or not that was a con… glad to have it confirmed.
The part where Kate and Juliet hide in a tree — from the TREE CRUSHING MONSTER — had me screaming at the TV.
I think she’ll eventually turn her in for reward. Didn’t the cops get to the hospital awfully fast when Kate went to visit her mother there?
But it had been established in a previous episode that the TCM leaves Banyan trees alone. Perhaps the Banyans are just too hard to uproot. Or maybe the TCM just likes them too much.
That’s a piss poor long con. She could have turned Kate in immediately for the same exact reward. Why bother befriending her first? She already knew everything she needed to know to collect the reward money, and yet she helped Kate talk to her mom, posed as Kate to assess the danger… Why all the effort for a long con?
Nope, doesn’t make sense.
Some references say these are bamboo clusters, which to me would indicate that the TCm is actually some kind of Panda Bear.
Has there been an instance where TCM attacked someone that wasn’t alone?
I thought the same thing as Uncle but then thought “maybe it only attacks when you are solo…”
Didn’t Kate’s mom have a big insurance policy? “Set her up for life” and all that. A con artist might be after that except that the policy would be nullified by the fact that it was murder.
Doesn’t this Federal Marshall have quite a lot of resources to waste on Kate? She killed one drunk wife-beating hillbilly and you’d think she blew up the FBI building!
What about the pilot (or the co-pilot…whatever)? It yanked him out of the cockpit (and later killed him alone.)
In the season 1 finale one of them grabbed Locke. He was not alone then.
Maybe the TCM didn’t want a twofer special.
The very first episode, the pilot was attacked in the presence of Jack, Kate, and Charlie (unless Charlie was still in the bathroom at that point?)
Juliet said, if I recall correctly, “We don’t know what it [TCM] is, but we know it doesn’t like our fences.”
??? They didn’t create this thing? Someone needs to explain, since we’ve seen the thing since the get-go and this season is almost over.
No more nicknames? Come on, let Sawyer have his fun. He’s got to come up with something better than “little baby” for Aaron.
I don’t think Locke has been brainwashed, but he can’t pass up the chance to stay on the island, keep the use of his legs, and have dear old dad to torment–if he chooses to do so.
I think it did one more significant thing. It gave Kate a different perspective on her mother’s point of view. Not just with her mother’s words, but with the befriending of Cassidy.
At first I thought maybe Cassidy was going for a long con, but by the end of the episode, I didn’t think so. (And the cops were already at the hospital when Kate went to see her dying mother – apparently, confirmed by this flashback, they have already been staking out Mom in the hopes that Kate will eventually show up. At the hospital, she did).
As for Kate and her perspective:
- She firmly believes she was blowing up stepdad (who is really Actual Dad) for Mom, because dad was abusive.
- Dad also make a drunken come-on to Kate just before she blew him up – providing more evidence that he’s a slimeball.
- Kate thinks Mom will be happy with what she did. After all, “I did it for you, Mom”.
- Kate further tries to help Mom with the insurance policy.
- Mom turns Kate in, which Kate doesn’t understand.
- Mom says, “You can’t help who you love. I still loved him.” Clearly, Kate still doesn’t understand this, and doesn’t forgive mom for turning her in.
Now, in the final conversation with Cassidy:
- Cassidy has been betrayed by a “loved one”, too.
- Despite that, Cassidy still loves him. She says as much to Kate. Explaining why she doesn’t want to have Kate go after him to help her with revenge or anything. She still loves him, despite everything.
I think this last conversation helped give Kate an alternate perspective on how Mom feels, seeing it through another set of eyes. Maybe it was just a glimmer, but maybe it helped her actually understand Mom’s reaction to Blowed-Up-Dad. Kate was so convinced that her own reasoning was right and just, that she never really looked at it from her mom’s POV. Until now…?
Kate probably wasn’t convinced by this, but I think it probably put a little doubt in her own justification for her actions. It did give her an example of responding with forgiveness, rather than revenge.
Apparently not, which leads me to my next conundrum. Last week or the week before, Ben told Locke that there were things about the island that the Others didn’t understand and the Locke was special because he was ‘more in tune’ with the island. The Others have been on the island for many many years (at least as long as Ben is old) and still haven’t learned things that Locke has in the last three months. So, why would Locke bug out with these folks who knew less about the island’s mysticism than he did?
This late in the thread, I just wanted to add, that during this episode, I suddenly realizd what a remarkably beautiful woman [the actress that plays] Juliet is. The same kind of unasuming perfection that Cate Blanchet has, that Isabella Rosselini used to have and Ingrid Bergman had.
I did. It sounded vaguely like Vincent. I don’t think anyone has mentioned this yet, but I think that dog knows something.
I think Locke is sort of a Savant with this island: In tune with it, but not understanding what its full potential (beyond what his experiences that is) is or where to get the goodies from it. Wheras the Others know the island back and forth, and where the goodies are, but may have lost any ‘attunement’ with it.
Yeah, I think that’s about right. And even though Locke “knows” a lot about The Island, he can still get a great deal of info from The Others. There is a mutually beneficial relationship right now, but I’d put my money on Ben winning over Locke any day. Locke always seem to get the short end of the stick in the long run.