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…I deeply appreciated Charlie/Desmond dialogue for the extensive opportunities to listen to a Brit and a Scot talking, be still my beating heart!..
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I hate it when people make unnecessary nitpicks, but a lot of Scots get irate about this and take it out on me, so I feel I should try and fight some ignorance. They’re both Brits (IE, both from Great Britain/British isles). More specifically, Desmond is a Scot (or a Jock. You guessed, from Scotland) and Charlie is English.
Foreigners (Americans especially, 'though I’ve trained my girlfriend to use the proper terms) tend to mix these up and call England Britain when comparing to Scotland, Ireland or Wales. Scottish people tend to get the most annoyed by this (forgetting that Britain pretty much is mostly England ~85%).
Sorry for the tangent, just thought you’d like to know…
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Besides the chronologicaal explanation given by jsc1953, his also just mentioned that as one of the “Oceanic 6” he was still occasionally approached for autographs. Thus, he’s growing the beard to avoid getting recognized.
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[QUOTE=ScareyFaerie]
I got the impression that he was a hero for pulling the woman from the burning wreckage of her car, rather than anything to do with the plane wreck.
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They called him a hero “two times over” or something to that effect. The second time was the pulling the woman and kid from the car wreck. Apparently the first one was whatever circumstance got them rescued from the island – that’s the impression I got from “Through the Looking Glass”.
And in this episode, a shout out to Ben for the best lines:
When they find the end to Naomi’s false trail Ben: “Better call the boat… tell them she’s getting a really big bundle of firewood…”
When they are choosing sides (Jack and John) Ben: “Jack, with your permission, I’d like to go with John!”
[QUOTE=storyteller0910]
Amen and hallelujah, brother!
It amazes me how angry and frustrated people seem to get when Lost continues to be what it has always been: a serial with a logically bizarre but dramatically effective narrative, revealed in little bits and pieces over the course of a long period of time, punctuated by well-written dialogue and performed as an absolute acting clinic by some of the performers (man oh man, Naveen Andrews is a great actor). I like this sort of show. I like the very slow reveal, the very gradual escalation of tension and uncertainty, the periodic but not episodic payoffs, the weird digressions of plot, and the solid (Fox, Lilly, Garcia, de Ravin) to expert-level (Emerson, Andrews, O’Quinn, Kim & Kim) acting.
I can absolutely understand not enjoying that kind of show, but it’s not like the show is billed as anything other than what it is. The willingness of people to keep wasting time watching something that they fundamentally don’t like is terribly strange to me.
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I’ve only gotten to this post so far in the thread, so my apologies if I’m beating a dead black horse, but…
I agree and enjoy the missing information and intrigue, and I don’t think Shadow, you, or I being Mafia players has anything to do with it.
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Originally Posted by Monstre When they are choosing sides (Jack and John)
Ben: “Jack, with your permission, I’d like to go with John!”
Um. Didn’t Ben shoot Locke in the back, probably not much more than a day ago, island time?
So why does he assume Locke would be willing to take him along?
[QUOTE=Alessan]
My money’s on Sawyer being in that coffin.
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I have two thoughts on this: First, **Rachel Rage ** is right, because Kate would be heartbroken and would have gone to the funeral; plus, I think when Kate and Jack meet at the end of the runway at night and she says “I have to get back, he’ll be waiting for me” or words to that effect, “he” is Sawyer. On the other hand, it could be Sawyer, and Kate didn’t go to the funeral because he broke her heart after they got back from the island, and she’s faking disinterest when she says to Jack, “Why would I go to his funeral?”
My question is, is Hurlee really insane? Is Charlie really dead? “Yes, I’m dead, but I’m here.” What does that mean? I think it means more than Charlie exists in Hurlee’s mind. The meaning of Charlie’s words has something to do with the nature of the island.
Um. Didn’t Ben shoot Locke in the back, probably not much more than a day ago, island time?
So why does he assume Locke would be willing to take him along?
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Because Locke can’t kill anyone … well, anyone he knows, he did kill Naomi but she was his first, he didn’t know her and she had her back to him. Besides Ben is a master manipulator and he probably thinks he can keep manipulating Locke not to kill him and Jack just beats the crap out of him anytime he opens his mouth.
[QUOTE=Sunrazor]
On the other hand, it could be Sawyer, and Kate didn’t go to the funeral because he broke her heart after they got back from the island, and she’s faking disinterest when she says to Jack, “Why would I go to his funeral?”
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Or he could have broken her heart before they left the island. I have a feeling they’ll be there for a while, yet.
Anyway, I think it’s a given that Sawyer and Kate wouldn’t be able to make it work. Sawyer’s not really the guy for the long haul. You see him settling down, having a bunch of kids? True love is nice and all, but let’s face it - the man’s a dick, and he’d be the first to admit it.
I think Ben and Locke want to keep an eye on each other. If Ben wants to kill Locke, or Locke wants to kill Ben, or if they both want to learn more about the other one, it can’t happen if they’re not in the same place.
Also, neither want to leave the island. They both have some metaphysical tie to it. “The island” permits them - or wants them - to be together.
[QUOTE=Sunrazor]
My question is, is Hurlee really insane?
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Sorry, “Hurley”. Yes, I really do watch. Really!
[QUOTE=Alessan]
I think it’s a given that Sawyer and Kate wouldn’t be able to make it work. Sawyer’s not really the guy for the long haul. You see him settling down, having a bunch of kids? True love is nice and all, but let’s face it - the man’s a dick, and he’d be the first to admit it.
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Um, I dunno, it is, after all, just a TV show. Sawyer could see Kate as being the one woman worth changing for. She’s an escaped felon, after all.
Ooh, ooh! I just had a thought! The “he” waiting for Kate is her son – Sawyer’s child! From the island! Wow!
Yeah, I know, somebody else has probably already suggested this. I just don’t feel like wading through five pages of th’ Dope to find it.
[QUOTE=pretend my name is witty]
I hate it when people make unnecessary nitpicks
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Hey, me too!
Yes, I’m aware Scotland is part of Great Britain, but my apologies for having misspoken. Let’s all hope this egregious oversight doesn’t prevent Brits of any make and model from chit-chatting it up in my presence. Hooray for various and sundry British Isles accentry!
[QUOTE=Sunrazor]
. Sawyer could see Kate as being the one woman worth changing for. She’s an escaped felon, after all.
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Right, because nothing brings a couple together like crime.
Sorry, I still think that “he” is Kate’s husband, and that Sawyer’s in the coffin. Remember, there were no friends or family at the funeral, and of the five surviving Lostiesm only one bothered to show up. Who could it be but Sawyer?
No family? Check. No friends? Check. Likely to alienate his fellow survivors? Check.
That’s assuming, of course, there was an body in that coffin. It could be… a con!
