[QUOTE=ShadowFacts]
Yes, it was ambiguous, but the impression I got was that he didn’t suddenly remember. I’ve got it DVR’d, so I’ll go back and watch it again tonight and see if I can’t pick up some clues. Or Scooby snacks.
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I got the impression that Desmond did remember everything after he got off the phone with Penny.
I was wondering if this was a flashback or flashfoward. Lostpedia is calling it a “flashtime”:
[QUOTE=ivylass]
And if we accept that time is moving faster on the island, that they’ve only been shipwrecked a week (?) then I think we can assume Aaron is NOT one of the Oceanic 6. If Kate is claiming him as her son, he couldn’t have been born on the island, or she’d have to explain Claire, and for whatever reason, Claire is no longer in the picture.
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Time doesn’t move differently on the island, as far as I can tell. They’ve been on the island about three months and crashed in September 2004, making it December 2004, which matches up with the time on the boat. The time distortion seems to happen when travelling to or from the island; that’s what happened to Faraday’s rocket and the helicopter in this episode. Also I don’t see how they could be having real-time conversations with the boat (or with Penny at the end of season 3) if there were such a time differential.
[QUOTE=Merijeek]
I thought it was kind of unclear. Did he remember Sayid, or was he just getting all friendly and emotional because Sayid saved his life and got him a chance to talk to Penny?
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I don’t think Sayid ever told Desmond his name during this episode, so when Desmond calls him by name at the end it’s meant to indicate he has his memory back.
Once again from Lostpedia on this episode:
I’m not sure I buy this. I wouldn’t be surprised if the producers have not been keeping this exact of a count of the days that have been shown to pass in all the episodes so far.
[QUOTE=SuperNelson]
When Desmond came to, Daniel said he had been gone for about 75 minutes, and that the process appeared to be accelerating.
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Thanks, I guess I missed that. Daniel talks too fast sometimes but he’s a cute nerd so I forgive him.
[QUOTE=RikWriter]
Jack didn’t say anything in reply, just stood there looking confused.
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I seem to remember him nodding “no”, but I could be wrong. Either way, wtf.
[QUOTE=John Mace]
ETA: The setting that Desmond told Faraday was 2.342. 23 42. The Numbers.
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The journal from the Black Rock was lot #2342 in the auction as well. I was disappointed that Widmore’s bidder number was 755, not 815 or some other iteration of the numbers, nor was the amount for which the journal sold.
It took me a while to remember the origin of “unstuck in time”, but I see others here came up with it as well. IIRC, it’s the first line of Slaughterhouse-5: “Billy Pilgrim had become unstuck in time.”
When we first see Minkowski, I thought it was Locke, in his younger days makeup (ie, with hair). Who was the actor? IMDB doesn’t list him. (my nagging feeling is that he was Larry, of Larry, Darryl & Darryl from “Newhart”).
Minkowski was Fisher Stevens.
[QUOTE=av8rmike]
The journal from the Black Rock was lot #2342 in the auction as well. I was disappointed that Widmore’s bidder number was 755, not 815 or some other iteration of the numbers, nor was the amount for which the journal sold.
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Penny’s address was 423, I believe (it could have been a different one, but I know for a fact that it was a combination of the numbers).
[QUOTE=John Mace]
Did anyone notice the bearing that the pilot took? It was 3… something. When Michael left the island, Ben told him to stay on a heading of 325, and he’d find “rescue”. I wonder if it was the same heading.
Also, are we to understand that he veered off course? I could tell if the needle shifted, but if it did, it was only by a tiny amount. And the hand-written note from Dan did not show a straight course, but there were at least 2 turns.
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I think the ‘cheat sheet’ the pilot had was for a course of 305 and then a turn to starboard. I think Ben gave Michael the 325 course for the express purpose of turning Michael’s brain to swiss cheese.
[QUOTE=Flander]
I seem to remember him nodding “no”, but I could be wrong. Either way, wtf.
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I don’t remember his exact reaction, either, but couldn’t he just have been playing it secretive, given that he doesn’t (and shouldn’t) trust the Boat People? I don’t think it is unreasonable to want to keep the hatch(es) secret from them.
Wasn’t Jack otherwise engaged elsewhere when the hatch imploded?
[QUOTE=Wile E]
Wasn’t Jack otherwise engaged elsewhere when the hatch imploded?
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He was being hostaged by the Others while Michael was climbing on the boat. Everyone was standing on the docks.
That being said, surely Jack was in the hatch one time when they put off pressing the button. Didn’t he and Locke know about magnets and get into their big argument that amounted to “Fine, Locke, you push the button, I’m gonna go moon over Kate” or something along those lines?
Of course, being Jack, we can assume that he never said “So, what happened to that thing that could have provided us shelter from storms and gave us purified drinking water?”
-Joe
[QUOTE=Flander]
[paraphrasing]
Faraday - “Was Desmond exposed to any high levels of radiation or anything?”
Jack - “No.”
WTF?!? Did you forget about the hatch imploding and sky turning purple?!
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Does he know that? Or, at least, does he know Desmond’s involvement in the event?
Jack was off with his away team following Michael when Locke came up with his idea that he and Desmond were going to lock Mr. Eko out and not push the button. He was on the dock as a prisoner of the Others and being confronted by Ben when the sky turned purple. He was with the Others for a while then returned with Juliet. At that point the other lostaways are withholding information from him because they don’t trust him and Juliet. (Remember, they didn’t even tell him about Naomi at first.) After that he becomes involved in getting to the radio tower and making the call to the freighter.
He probably know the Hatch is gone and may even had made the connection between it and the sky turning purple, but he may not know that Desmond was in the Hatch at the time and probably hasn’t realized that there was anything electromagnetic involved. (He knew there was a big magnet somewhere in the hatch but almost certainly does not know what happened when (or even that) the button wasn’t pushed. The only ones who do are Locke, who he isn’t talking to, Mr. Eko, who is dead, and Desmond, who really has never had a chance to talk to him about it.)
But he knows there’s a big ass magnet in the hatch and he knows Desmond was living there for years. He should be able add 2 and 2 to get 4, or don’t they teach high level math like that in Medical School?
Re: Jack, Faraday, and the hatch implosion
I assumed Jack’s internal dialogue went something like this:
Ok, well, I heard something about a hatch imploding and I know the hatch was supposed to have something to do with magnets, but I always thought that was bullshit, and I still don’t know what actually happened, and even if the hatch implosion involved magnets, I don’t trust these people, and if I say something about a magneting thing, they might want to know more about it, and what exactly could I safely tell them about it? Maybe it was *their * hatch and they’ll be pissed. Ah, good, he’s not going to press me on the issue.
I think Jack should figure out that of all the people involved, Faraday and the pilot guy are the ones he can actually trust. I wouldn’t trust Charlotte or Miles at all.
[QUOTE=John Mace]
I think Jack should figure out that of all the people involved, Faraday and the pilot guy are the ones he can actually trust. I wouldn’t trust Charlotte or Miles at all.
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and it looks like Juliet may return to the dark side–or some other side–in the next few episodes