Wow. The Eqyptian Smoky Cloud-o-Death puts on Alex’s face and tells Ben, “I can see through you, asshole – and Locke is my Chosen One. Obey him, or else!”
Sweet.
That was a good episode; better than the last couple, I thought. It was pretty obvious that Ben wasn’t going to die, though, since I’m sure they want to keep Emerson around for next season, too.
Alex looked pretty sexy. Why, though, would she (or the monster, I guess) believe Ben when he said he wouldn’t kill Locke? I’m sure he’s going to still try to do it since he’s the most untrustworthy person on earth.
I’m glad Penny isn’t dead. Or doesn’t seem to be, anyway.
True. Good call. And it was definitely one of Widmore’s people, because that’s when Ben was sending Saying after them.
Sayid had said to Ilana, “You’re a bounty hunter?” I was originally thinking that’s mainly what she was – but I suppose we shouldn’t take that one at face value. Not just a simple bounty hunter, it looks like now.
Although at this point, I’m guessing that her only mission wasn’t just to bring Sayid “to justice” (and to Guam). Maybe just a ploy to get on the plane – perhaps she and her buddies really knew where the Ajira plane was going, just like the Losties did.
On that note, I wonder if Ilana recognized Ben.
Interesting facts from the episode:
We haven’t seen the temple yet, just the outer wall.
Penny was born off the island.
That definitely is baby Ethan, and Ben was working with him at a young age.
Charlies lied about being tricked into turning the wheel.
Also, I wonder what’s in the big case. I’m assuming it’s more than just guns. And I think we know who was shooting at the Losties earlier in the season.
It’s… Charles Widmore! He packed himself in the luggage for the trip, to smuggle himself back to the island!
Oh, and that hieroglyphic cave drawing – definitely one of those Egyptian gods on the right, but the left side looked like possibly a representation of the Smoke Critter coming up to greet his god. Or did anybody see something else in that pic?
I thought i was keeping up, but am lost on one thing.
What year is it now - where in the timeline - are Ben, Locke and Sun ?
Why is the Dharma village abandoned ?
I’m L O S T
Dharma village is abandoned because that’s how we last saw it in Season 4, when Ben summoned the smoke monster to kill Widmore’s mercs. We’ve all sort of wondered why some of the Dharma stuff is still around, since we didn’t notice it when the place was called New Othertown, but maybe we just missed it then.
I was pretty sure Ben was going to kill Penny and that anything else would be a chickening out, but they did a pretty decent job of setting it up characterwise with Ben’s flashbacks.
And honestly, I never blamed Ben for Alex’s death. I mean, him saying that he didn’t care about her was all a ploy to try and get Widmore’s goons from using her as a bargaining chip. He did it to save her, not save himself, and it was obvious how much it hurt him to say it, and how shocked he was when they killed her anyway.
He had no reason to think that they’d let her live if he just turned himself over to them: in fact, he KNEW that they had orders to simply kill everyone, plus we now know that Widmore wanted her dead specifically at one point!
Still trying to figure out why Widmore would have lied about turning the wheel, claiming that he came out in the same place as Locke and Ben. If Widmore didn’t go through that, then how did he find the location at all so he could be ready for Locke?
Also, DAMN CAESAR! They sure spent a lot of time setting that character up only to just have him get blown away so quickly and easily.
Ben, Locke, and Sun appear to be in the “present” time – which ought to be the same time that the Ajira flight took off from the mainland. So that ought to be three years (in real world time) after the original crash + 100 days of our Losties on the island. Although whether it means 3 years have elapsed on the island…? Not sure.
But their current time frame would be post-freighter and Martin Keamy. Last we saw of the main band of Others, Ben had Richard take them to the Temple. So during season 4, only Locke and the Losties who chose to follow him were living in the Barracks. And of course Ben, and Miles with a grenade in his mouth at the time, etc. etc.
It looks to me like nobody’s really been living in the Barracks since Keamy’s mercenaries attacked there and the rest of season 4 ensued. Now, the Ajira 315 crash-landers are in some time frame after that.
Oh, and next week: Miles/Hurley buddy-buddy episode! woot!
Dittos, TooSchool! Woot woot to Miles/Hurley!
I agree that giving the Smoke Monster a “Previously on ‘Lost’ function…” was pretty cheesy.
That guy that Ben shot in the chest is going to be very pissed at him down the line. Mark my words.
But the reason I’m here is to ask about something that has been bugging me all season. Why did Sawyer decide that it was sooo important to keep Jack, Kate, ect’s mode of arrival on the island and he and his companion’s time travel adventure a secret from the Dharmites? We’ve been made to understand that the Dharma Initiative is there to investigate the strangeness of the island, right? Well, wouldn’t the island’s ability to pull people out of airplanes and back in time be of interest in such studies? How would revealing that he and his friend’s have first-hand experience with island weirdness negatively impact him? He acts like letting the Dharma Initiative in on his and his friend’s stories would be a bad thing. Other than story intrigue, are we suppose to understand why all the sneaking and secrecy?
Look what happened when Sayid just showed up with no cover story. They assumed he was an Other, and tortured him to find out the truth. When he told them the truth, they still didn’t believe him and decided to kill him. That was the fate Sawyer wanted to avoid by not telling a ridiculous, impossible (but true) story.
randwill, my guess is that Sawyer just didn’t think the loony Dharmites would believe them & would think they were working with the hostiles. Remember how quick they were to give Sayid the death penalty.
Upon posting I see Rubystreak has said it better. We come in the shadow of the statue!
It had that function before. When it found Mister Eko, you could flashes of his life in the main “body.” It wasn’t as visible though.
Also, I’m really curious as to what to Richard and Others have been up to for 3 years. We don’t really know what year it was when Richard told Locke he had to bring everyone back, but he seemed to be panicked.
The Others mostly just seem to have the purpose of sitting around hanging out protecting the Island, and nothing much else. They aren’t doing research like the Dharma-guys. They just wait for orders from Jacob and/or the current leader.
Real question now is how Charles got to be THE leader when it seemed like Richard was in the 50s and Charles was just a peon. Was there ANOTHER leader in the 50s and Richard was just the highest ranking dude around in the scenes we saw that Charles apparently took over for?
I’m still really surprised that Widmore never turned the donkey wheel, at least as far as we know now.
Ben said, as Widmore was about to board the submarine, that he (Widmore) had been traveling on and off the island, which is apparently a violation of the rules. Maybe Ben had encouraged Charles to leave prior to that – for whatever reason – and then he was using those instances against him, to get him kicked off the island.
(Don’t ask me how Widmore would get back to the island after having left via the wheel, or why, after he returned the first time with some kind of vessel, he wouldn’t just go back to using it to leave again. I haven’t thought that part through yet.)
I got the impression that Ben used to leave the island regularly - remember his stash of passports? and his flunky who recruited Walt’s father? and didn’t Richard leave to test Locke and Ethan to recruit Juliet? So I don’t think we know the real story w/r/t who can leave the island.
am I the only one who was afraid we were gonna lose Penny? I am?
going back into the shadows of the statue now where I still find Locke annoying
Here’s my guess:
Locke, Ben’s daughter, Christian, Claire, essentially all the dead people, are entities. They’re no longer sentient. They may be the smoke monster’s way of communicating, but they no longer exist as humans