First off, this west coast bullshit I’m living through this week is, um, bullshit.
As someone who knows nothing about demolitions (beyond CUT THE BLUE WIRE - IT’S ALWAYS THE BLUE WIRE), I’ve got a basic C4 question. Is there anything that would prevent someone from taking a knife and carving away a big chunk of the explosive?
I’m annoyed about Sun and Jin, but what really annoys me is that there’s absolutely no indication whatsoever of what happened to Frank. At least show his body drifting past the lovers’ poetic hands or something.
Presumably he needs the plane for something. He can’t seem to cross water on his own (unless all the rowing was a bluff), and with the sub gone he might still need the plane.
I want to know why Widmore would set up such a clumsy trap. Something with the whole sequence is off.
Nah. They were on a pier with only a little cover and only one way off. Jack was eventually going to have to get in the sub, get shot, or surrender.
Umm…he spent hundreds of years working to exploit a “loophole”. You just figured that out?
Maybe Cooper was still a bastard and still working the “best dad in the world - oh by the way can I have a kidney?” con when the plane crash happened. That’s my current working theory.
I’m still standing by my earlier speculations and I think that at the end Jacob and Smoke will still be sitting on the island at the end and that all of our favorite and not so favorite characters will be living in the ATL.
I’ll also add this. My daughter has watched and loved this show from the beginning. When the really bad thing happened, I made a stupid joke, not realizing she was tearing up. I wish I could take that back.
I think the reason why UnLocke didn’t let the plane blow became evident when AlternaLocke revealed he had a pilot’s license. UnLocke most likely possesses this knowledge now and will try to get off the island via the plane (at some point).
Or not.
I’m still sad over Jin and Sun so I may not be thinking straight.
My last best hope is that the alternate and island timelines do some kind of magical meshing thing and we see the friends we’ve come to know all shiny and new again.
I kept thinking that Sun was going to tell Jin to go because he has a daughter to look out for! I’m very disappointed in her… acceptance of Jin’s decision to stay. My wife would be really, really, REALLY pissed at me if I decided to stay when there’s no hope of saving her. She wouldn’t get all teary-eyed, “you’re so romantic and I love you” if I said I was never going to be separated from her again; she’d curse the hell out of me, do anything to me to get me to leave and go take care of our daughter.
I guess we now know why Jacob said it was very important for Hurley to save Sayid.
Oh, and I certainly got a backgammon feeling when everyone piled into the submarine… almost like everyone was on the home board and ready to start bearing off.
Yes, that was handled akwardly. Something way more subtle that people could’ve caught on rewatching it (and posting screenshots somewhere) would have been better.
I did like the touch of Smocke taking the wristwatch though.
So…forgive me if I’ve missed something already posted…
Did Widmore’s people rig the plane to explode? That seems the obvious answer, but weren’t Richard/Miles/Ben headed back to the barracks to get some more explosives? What is it they were planning to blow up exactly?
Edit to add: agreed the bit about the backpack/C4 was awkward. I think I had about eleventy billion beers, and I called that one.
Yep, I was thinking the same thing – “You two really aren’t going to orphan Ji Yeon are you?!!” Tell him to get his ass out of there and go raise his daughter. Or cut off your leg or something and drag your torso to safety.
I think so. Otherwise obvious plothole of why didn’t Widmore just destroy the plane to prevent Smoky from leaving? Plus who else is responsible? We saw MIB dismantling it alone, so we know it’s not him.
Of course the usual Lost complaint remains. If only people would share information, the whole series would be avoided. Particularly in this case. Ghost Jacob, tell Hurley how to make the candidate into the new Jacob, and wallah, MIB is defeated. Or even Widmore, you have a list, tell the people what you know about that list.
It’s unfortunate that the entire series depends on unreliable information. And the bit about Jacob’s “if I have to tell them what’s right, it’s pointless” is a cop out. Basic moral compass, OK people can take personal responsibility for that. But ultra-specific mythology involving a deceptive shape shifting monster? Sorry but that exceeds anyone’s basic moral compass abilities and requires a PhD in ultra-specific moral situation reasoning.
Don’t get me wrong, I loves me some Lost.
But more than anything, Lost reminds me of a game of Mu.
I thought this too, but then it made me realize why their reunion was so bland. The fanbase is going to be upset with Jin and Sun’s death as it is, but can you imagine how much hate mail the directors/producers would be getting if they did some long, drawn out reunion on the beach in the last episode? Man, that would’ve just been…wrong.
Or I could be way off here. Maybe the creators of the show don’t care since it’s the last season.
Except that women weren’t rendered sterile. Plenty got pregnant. Remember Juliet explaining that somewhere just before the third trimester, there was something about an immune system response and the women all died? Juliet wouldn’t have ever been recruited to the island if the women were sterile and couldn’t get pregnant at all. Note, there was nothing about stillbirths or miscarriages; the potential moms *died *before giving birth, which was why it was so important to get Sun off the island.
Am I the only one who’s starting to think that Widmore is working with Smokey instead of actually trying to stop him?
Remember the agreement between Sawyer and Widmore on the sub when Widmore asks “How do I know I can trust you?” and Sawyer says “Same way I know I can trust you.” Sawyer was obviously planning to double-cross Widmore but Widmore may have been planning to double-cross the Candidates as well. Kate getting shot by Widmore’s people may have just been part of the plan.
I guess, but unless my memory is off, FLocke handed Jack the C4 backpack before there were any shots fired. I guess he could have known Widmore’s people were around, but it still seems like a stretch.
That makes a lot of sense, and yet it seems to me that if he’d allowed everyone to blow up with the plane, he still would have had the sub (and crew) to use to escape.
After the first couple of episodes, I thought I had figured out basically how things were going to end up. I don’t know now if it’s going to happen, but it’s still possible.
Hurley will be the new Jacob. He’s the only one who’s really selfless. He’s never really had alternative motives, etc. What you see is basically what you get.
The alt timeline will somehow be his “reward” to the other Losties. His attempt to fix things. I have no idea how he would have the power to pull this off, but it’s just a hunch.
The thing I was most sad about was that I didn’t feel sad about Jin & Sun (or Sayid or Lapidus). I loved Jin & Sun, but I think they were apart so long, and their reunion was so bland, and their ALT selves seem to be in good shape that their demise didn’t matter much to me. But I, too, was pissed that they deliberately left Ji Yeon an orphan - unless they figured they’d never get back to the mainland anyway, in which case the result is the same.
As soon as the ALT timeline started, I felt like that was going to end up being the “real” reality and that it only really mattered how they turned out on that side. I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if everyone we know and love on the island gets exterminated in favor of their better-off ALT selves.
I can’t remember what’s going on with Sayid’s ALT self though - isn’t he in jail or something? Poor Sayid! He can’t catch a break this season.
Just read that the finale has been extended by a half hour, because they’ve filmed so much material. It’ll now run on Sunday 5/23 from 9-1130p. Story here.
More material or more commercials? My DVR cuts commercials automatically and even the ones that are a few minutes longer, are the same as the rest of them, about 42 minutes. I can see an extra 20 minutes of commercials just because they know they have us.