I gotta add some more. There’ve been countless scenes I call “strangle Kate” scenes, where I really would like to have strangled the woman. This Lighthouse episode has the winner so far, of all the many contenders. When Jack and Hurley find her at the river… “Jack, I almost shot you!” YOU SHOULD’VE, YOU SILLY CUNT.
I’m really sick of Jack, ok
Yes, me. Really tired of all these “coincidences” in the other world. Really tired of this whole alternate/other world mystery and I more or less tune out during those scenes, until some relevance is established. I’m thinking that much like all the previous back-story we had to endure, none will be.
I was thinking the same, only other way round. Jacob has been meddling/fating people’s lives for ages while the other guy/Smokes did nothing. Smokes had to be summoned by Ben, and if I recall correctly Eko also elected to face him.
He still seems to be providing choices to people, where Jacob just gives mysterious instructions.
Didn’t Smokey try to pull Locke underground during the first season. I seem to remember that Jack and Kate saved him by grabbing his arm. I guess Smokey wasn’t pulling as hard as he was on the Frenchman. Now that I just remembered it I hope that incident is included in whatever explanation we get.
Heh. For people who aren’t familiar with the book, here’s a short summary of part of the plot from Wikipedia:
Mrs. Whatsit, Mrs. Who, and Mrs. Which turn out to be angelic beings who transport Meg, Charles Wallace, and Calvin O’Keefe through the universe by means of tesseract, a fifth-dimensional phenomenon explained as being similar to folding the fabric of space and time. Their first stop is the planet Uriel, a Utopian planet filled with joyous beings who live always in a state of light and love. There the “Mrs W’s” reveal to the children that the universe is under attack from an evil being who appears as a large dark cloud called The Black Thing. Seeing the Black Thing even from a distance is disturbing to Meg.
Dark cloud representing evil? Time/space folding? Hmmm.
Jack and Kate also threw some dynamite down the hole, it seemed that the explosion of the dynamite is what made Smokey let go of Locke. I guess there could be physical limits to Smokey’s invulnerability - bullets bounce off, but dynamite hurts.
I think we are meant, at this point, to interpret the LA X timeline as the happy ending timeline where everyone seems more capable of dealing with their issues. I may be wrong about this, but didn’t everyone so far act kinda messed up UNTIL they looked at themselves in a MIRROR? And then they had a personal realization and kinda turned things around? Might not mean anything, but might have a connection to Jacob’s mirror… but in any case, if we’re ALREADY being led to think this is the happy-ending timeline, then that can’t really be it, can it? Got to be another twist on top of that…
I don’t think Dogen’s reveal was meant to surprise us as soon as he turned around: it they gave us his head that we cold go “ohshitohshitoshit” for a little bit before getting the payoff.
Smokee vs. Jacob is really really hard to suss out. Smokee is fatalistic when we meet him, but like Jacob he also speaks of choice, and accuses Jacob of being the manipulator. Yet Smokee seems to kill people like Eko that refuse to admit they were broken and thus can show remorse and change. He doesn’t kill Ben apparently because Ben does feel remorse.
If it is, poor Aaron failed to meet Jacob’s standards at a really early age (or is dead) in order to get crossed out.
I highly doubt that was Jacob’s real intention at any point. Why would he want Hurley to bring someone to the island who had already crossed off as a Candidate? It was all a ruse to get Jack to see that the mirror had spied on him him and confront the demons of his past. Why else would Hurley need to bring Jack and only Jack? So he could kick in the door? Whether Jacob expected him to break the mirror or not, I don’t know. He didn’t seem upset by it, so I assume that he thinks Jack is the best Candidate (after a few minor personality adjustments) and thus no longer needs the Mirror of Long Distance Examination.
This works best. I actually thought the first “A” was more a picture of the arrow (the top of the “A” is filled in and the sides are curved instead of straight) and that the word following it was “aim”. Aaron makes no sense in any context; it’s apophenia. “Arrow” fits the writing and the context perfectly.
Pretty sure Kate looks in a mirror at the mechanic before deciding to go back and find Claire. Pretty sure John is looking in the mirror when he decides to rip up Jack’s card. And Jack freaks out about his scar while looking in the mirror, and then looks in a mirror in David’s room, where he smiles to see a picture of the two of them together.
Also note that the episodes are still vaguely following the same pattern as season one. We had an ensamble/sorta Jacky/Katy/Charlie-ie premiere, a Kate ep, a Locke ep, a Jack ep, and the next ep is called “Sundown” (producers claim it’s a Sayid episode, which would break the pattern: this would have been a Sun-centric episode) The next ep would be a Charlie ep, which has to break the pattern, and this is rumored to be a Ben ep. But at least at the beginning, I doubt its a coincidence that we are revisiting the characters in a general sort of order. I’m sure the pattern will change break at some point, but…
All of that notwithstanding, “aim at 180” is exactly what Hurley came to do. (I didn’t say–and didn’t mean–that this was really what Jacob cared about.)
I guess I don’t buy the MiB = lighthouse theory. Jacob was the one trying to bring people to the Island. The lighthouse fire seemed designed to do exactly that.
If the mirror was used to watch all these people, how come the image wasn’t constantly changing? Rather, only a few points of the compass had visible images flash.
