Your quote is in full here, correct?
I have TWICE claimed my Name. This would be the third time.
I am Sawyer.
My alignment is Town, and it matches what I have read from LOSTpedia.
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Or are you guys skimming me now?** I still don’t get that. How can ANYONE play this game, without skimming?
Meeko, please, please stop talking about yourself and how you play mafia. I’m still leaning toward you being Town, but these long posts about you and your play style – after other players have already suggested how non-helpful they are – are only distracting everyone from actually playing the game, which is anti-Town. Take this post, for example: instead of spending time on the actual game, I am wasting time on this nonsense. I’m hardly the only one. If you keep it up, I will feel compelled to vote for you just to clear the chaff, and I would rather not do that.
Posting does not equal playing.
Actually, I think the Day ends Wednesday at noon. Is that correct, Mahaloth?
I feel wronged. That is all. Perhaps I am hoping against hope to change minds here. Regardless I feel compelled to defend myself. Yes, compelled is the word.
You say that posting does not equal playing. Well, I’m not 100% on board here.
What does not posting equal ?
You might not have voted for me, and I wish you don’t. However, you are telling me I am condemned to death here. I don’t see much difference in the two.
Concur. We’ll also see at least 1 name and alignment before then, which might help us.
Today ends wednesday at noon, not tomorrow.
Any suggestions on better scum? At this point I’m fairly convinced meeko is innocent, but am open to moving my vote away from pede is someone can make a good case for someone else. Storyteller’s suggestion that we keep an eye on meeko voters may be helpful in the Days ahead, but it isn’t statistically relevant yet.
Yes. Wednesday at Noon.
I’ve been working on avoiding your drama here Meeko but I think I can answer your questions.
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You are not defending yourself you are defending you style. There are two options for defending yourself, either pick holes in the argument or find someone scummier. Since it’s Day 1 there really isn’t a lot to the argument except you misquoted someone. You can’t pick holes in that all that leaves you is to look around and try and convince people that Pede (or whoever you spot) is a better candidate then you, this cannot be done talking about yourself.
Some times not posting is playing the game, power roles sometimes try to keep their head down by not posting scum do the same thing that doesn’t mean they aren’t playing but that they are playing quietly. This is not optimal for the town, but lots of posting is not the opposite but rather forcing the town to read more to get equal information. Ideally you will post to analyze what others are doing and to let the town know why you are voting. Neither of these options require constant posting. (yes, there are other reasons to post but I was trying to make a point)
Mafia boils down to the simple fact that scum have information on their side and town has numbers. Town gaining information is the real point of the game because the only other way to find scum is luck. As a townie your goal is not to stay alive but to gain the town information even if you die because people find you annoying it still gains the town information, admittedly very little, in the form of your alignment and being one less place for scum to hide.
In short quite worrying about your death and start trying to provide us with information, we don’t need big reveals but noticing patterns or pointing out things that are off and need more explanation.
Nope, if I did my vote would be there right now. I’d move over to Pede if the case improves but out of the cases that are out there I think bad play is a better one.
Any large voting block will have scum in it so watching the people voting for Pede is equally valid as the people voting for Meeko.
BTW, I am leaving my vote on Meeko as I’m not convinced that taking a mostly-random pot-shot at a townie(1) is more pro-Town than reducing the noise level. Yes, per Jimmy, ideally we’d all ignore irrelevances and carry forward (and I’ve done my best at that this thread) but I’m not convinced that’s practical.
(1) The case against Pede is very slim, and I haven’t seen anything better for anyone else.
**Attention, all Survivors!
I am making a minor, but I think important, change to the game. This change comes only from this game being my first game moderated. I made a mistake, which I must now fix. Please don’t bother complaining, I’m doing my best and I think the below is the best solution. I have discussed it with some fellow Mafia people outside the game, and they agree.
I completely anticipated the name claim, but I made an error I must now fix. I don’t want to get into some of the details right now(for game reasons), but the following are relevant for everyone.
I am directly issuing the Others aliases that they may use if they choose. I should have done this in the first place, but did not.
I am issuing a PM role description to go with the aliases as well. There was no generic “Survivor” role PM, so read nothing if people have minor differences, which I’m sure they do. I should have done this in the first place, but did not.
You may do a name claim if you wish or not if you decide, but the above decisions are worth noting and considering.**
Oh, I’m also unlikely to post during non-working hours, so I’ll catch up tomorrow morning.
And of course Maha drops that announcement in just as I’m writing my evening sign-off post.
Well, that sure seems like it screws up our whole mass claim idea. I can’t wait to read the Forbidden Thread after I die that conversation has got to be interesting.
OK, given the above tweak, is there still any argument in favor of the name claim? It doesn’t look like it, to me.
Oh, and thank you, Mahaloth. I was contemplating trying to put together a massive Monte Carlo simulation of the results of a mass-claim, but I think you just saved me a lot of work.
I am not sure I follow.
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Are you giving NEW names to scum? Or just names to scum to begin with? [Did scum already have names, before this change?]
Are you giving scum UNIQUE names? Or are we going to have two of everybody? **
**Numbering mine.
As stated, I am issuing Aliases to the Others.
No comment.
No comment.**
Correct me if I am wrong here.
As I read the changes, given what was NOT answered, I can only conclude the following :
Everything we ** have** done with regards to the MATH in relation to “Name Claiming” more or less just went out the window.
That is to say, simply claiming name and alignment means next to nothing now. Correct?
OK I had to post a bit from home. Don’t expect it regularly.
I’d say this weakens the mass claim idea considerably, but I’d still expect that the majority of the “A” list (whoever they are) characters will be Town. The difference is (a) scum will no longer be forced into lies and (b) they also won’t be forced to pick “D” list characters to avoid being forced into a lie. More like “B” list, and the difference will be much harder to see. Still something to contemplate, but not nearly the no-brainer it looked like to me before.
As I understand it, what Mahaloth means is that all of the Scum have now been told names that sound innocent and aren’t duplicated by any of the real Townies. So if we were to do a mass name-claim, the Scum could claim their aliases, and we’d have no duplicate claims.
My issue here is with #2. ““PM role description to go with the aliases as well””
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Assuming power roles, wouldn’t this give Scum even MORE information?**
I read this to mean, that Mahaloth will give scum keys to the kingdom on how to work color into the traditional Mafia roles.
He says PM role description. Not JUST a name.
Should we be worried here?
At this point, I am glad to have name claimed when I had the chance.