She’d be 30, but it’s still belivable that she’d go. Maybe she get’s dragged along by her Countercultural friends. My great aunt went (much to my grandfather’s horror); she was 55 at the time!
Facts are for women and Irishmen. Don’t bother me with such things again.
I would be very disappointed to lose the actress who plays Sally, so I hope we don’t see any huge jumps in time. In keeping with the hard-to-predict nature of the show, maybe there won’t be any jump between seasons.
I also can’t find anything wrong or objectionable about Jessica Pare’s interview. She looks gorgeous and sounds fun. And she’s right about her character being a new type of woman. We saw that Joan’s ambitions never really extended beyond Queen of the Secretaries, and when they did they were crushed shortly afterward. Peggy has the career (which she kind of fell into; if things had gone differently she’d still be someone’s secretary), but has no idea how to manage a life outside of work. Peggy notwithstanding, Megan still works in a male-dominated field in a time when women are lucky if they aren’t being straight-up sexually propositioned and harassed in the office. I don’t fault her any of her choices.
:smack: I mean Disneyland. I had a brainfart, somehow relating the French to Paris.
How is she any different than Jane? Other than mentioning that she would be interested in “what Don and Peggy do”
Jane is certainly silly in a way that Megan isn’t. I’d honestly have to go back and rewatch season 3 to refresh my memory of Jane, but as I recall she was always pretty insubstantial and flighty. She was also bad at her job (she was fired, in fact).
Megan has shown herself to be pretty mature and perceptive for somebody her age. She’s good with Don’s kids and at least claims to have some career ambition.
Of course the situations are at least superficially similar. Joan points out that there isn’t anything novel or cute about what Don did. Megan might turn out to be as useless as Jane, but what (admittedly little) we’ve seen of her leads me to believe she’s different.
I disagree. I think we’ve seen the same qualities in Jane that we’ve seen in Meghan–Jane put down the boys lusting after her, Meghan put down Joyce lusting after her, Jane boldly walked into Cooper’s office, Meghan boldly walked into Don’s office and slept with him . . .
Meghan has done sooo many silly/flighty things. Walking into Don’s office claiming an interest in copywriting, and then sleeping with him thirty minutes later. Not thinking that maybe the security forms should be given special attention. Showering Don with affection and praise for no reason. Sleeping with him when she knew he had a gf. They both accepted marriage proposals kind of out of the blue, but at least Jane had been seeing Roger for a while.
I really actually question Megan’s intelligence to accept Don’s words of love and commitment after spending two days with him. While he had a gf
Jane also showered Roger (and Don) with attention/affection (she bought Don those shirts). Like Meghan, she was a pretty competent secretary as well. I mean, wow, Jane wrote a poem for Roger . . . she is probably really deep and intelligent too!
I agree that later we see her being even dumber (giving Margaret marriage advice, spacing out during Margaret’s wedding to catch up on the JFK shooting), but at this point in her and Roger’s courtship, I think she actually outshone Megan in perceived intelligence and interesting-ness. She marched into Cooper’s office to check out that painting, after all, which shows more initiative and ballsiness and “spark” than Megan has ever showed.
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Jane was NOT a bad secretary. She brought Don shirts to change up his rotation, no? That’s more thoughtfulness than any other secretary (except maybe Allison) has shown. She was fired because Don was pissed that Mona was blaming him for Roger leaving her for Jane, and decided to take it out on Jane.
And I’m sorry, but my idea of “perceptive” does not involve agreeing to marry someone you’ve never dated, never spent any substantial time outside of work with, slept with three times, and who has a history of insecurity regarding his identity and the federal government as well as relationship infidelity. Yes, I get it, he’s hot, and purportedly rich (although that fortune might be dwindling with the $150,000 payout and the divorce).
Don Draper’s “What?”
He gets more emotion in that one word…
I didn’t see the shirt purchase as Jane being thoughtful. She was trying to manipulate Don. And Don was vexed with the Mona incident because it showed that Roger was mixing [del]work[/del] the office and fucking, which Don, at that point, refused to do, rightfully knowing it to be a bad idea.
Quoted for truth alone. Well, that and so I could decline to use the abbreviation and be snotty about it.
**pepperlandgirl
The thing that I loved about this episode is that we have seen these storylines played out before, but not quite like this. Don was disgusted by Roger leaving his wife for Jane, but now he’s all starry-eyed, all “But I’m in love tra-la-la” **
Don didn’t leave his wife for his secretary though, IIRC they’ve been divorced for 2+ years at this point. Roger on the other hand literally just dropped a bomb and walked away with some new eye candy. Though I have noticed the parallels between Don and Roger, just pointing out that though the outcome is similar the things leading up are different.
Totally realistic. i’m NOTHING like I was when I was 20 (I’m 27 now). You learn a lot and have way more experience in 5 or 6 years. 25-27 IMHO is when you finally figure out to some extent who you are and what you want, it’s a painful transitional growing up process. And who knows, people deal with crisis very differently…
Let me guess: you want to be a zombie when you grow up? 
Remind me of the timing… is it eventually going to be obvious to Greg that the baby isn’t his?
No, they’ve already shown telephone conversations between Joan and Greg that make it clear that he thinks the baby is his. While he was stationed stateside, she made visits to see him.
He’s a doctor, so I’m sure he would have been able to tell that the timing was too far off long before the actual birth.
Mad Men reruns are supposed to start up again on Sunday morning, 6 a.m. on AMC.