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Ok, on an unrelated topic.
I don’t like the back and forth between story and CIAS, something about it feels off. I also don’t know what the hell is going on with CIAS who is usually smarter than he is playing at the moment.
Ok, I am going to crawl back into my hole and hide from this game for a while longer. Is this what it was like to be in M2 or Firefly? If it is, then I am so SO sorry for doing that to you. SO sorry.
Interesting, I try to bleach the vote and it turns maroon. This board is indeed odd.
Since Pollux Oil hasn’t shown up since his uber-freaky post way back when, and it’s been a while (although I’m one to talk, having been on a data consumption binge for three days), so I’m
Voting Pollux Oil
But I’ve still got my eye on you, CatInASuit, and you’re acting pretty strange too.
You know what, there is nothing about this post that I like. Nothing.
Also, I have been wanting to move my vote off of Dot for a bit, and I think this gives me the opportunity.
unvote Dot
vote Pedescribe
Explain to me why if Nanook was not a Witch would result in him being Night-killed, please? I’m not following your logic. I understand that scum would avoid offing a Nanook because he would most likely be protected by his fellow Witches if he were telling the truth. The only scum faction that needs the other scum faction dead are the Cabal, and unless Pleonast game them some kind of killing power they have to rely on the Day’s lynch to do eliminate the competition.
If you’re willing to go to such lengths to try and verify a claim, and we can somehow collectively and accurately determine whether or not such a disclosure is indeed the true witch board, what would stop the anti-town factions (which you could be a member of, for all we know) from analyzing the traffic to that site with traffic to these boards and educated guesses as to players schedules and whatnot to try and deduce which players might be other witches? Besides that, it crosses way over the line of what I consider the “spirit of the game” and I don’t give a flying fuck if people find me suspicious for saying so.
I also want to correct something I said previously. If Nanook survives the Night, it does not necessarily mean that the coven protected one of their own. It could mean that all of the killing powers that could have been used against him happened to be held in check for fear of wasting the kill in case he was protected, or any number of other reasons not to try and kill him.
Damn you Pleo and your contrived rules that I keep having to wade through only to realize that I am, once again, a mis-remembering dumbass.
By my accounts, dot is right. Only a killing cabal or perhaps a passionately-convinced-that-Nanook-is-guilty Vig are the killing forces I can see as having an incentive to target him toNight if he is not lynched.
I was one of those who said he was likely to be night-killed if he’s lying, and I can see now why you might find that confusing. What I meant was: he’s likely to be targeted by a scum faction (or factions) who want to kill a Witch. If he’s NOT a Witch, he’s not going to be protected by the real witches, so unless someone else protects him, he’s toast.
So, to sum up: I expect that scum may target him in the hopes of offing a Witch. If he’s really a Witch, his sisters will protect him. If he’s lying, he’s likely to be dead. Does that make sense?
Can you elaborate? Do you mean it feels contrived or something else?
Just a warning: I am having medication problems and am likely to not get to a computer much until Monday.
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And coming from someone who hosed simpletown. Although the Mod was down with the way way I broke it. This does not feel kosher in the least. I agree that this strategy, while potentially effective, does not pass the smell test. I am agreeing with cookies that this does not feel copacetic at all.
I mean I would like to win. But to devote my IT department to tracking IP addresses and visited sites and cracking passwords … Sorry, you guys ain’t that important.
Sorry dude. Never been head to head with you but this a stupid fucking piece of mealy mouthed shit head kind of bucket of piss kind of idea.
Peek
And I have really not gone head to head with anyone outside of some end game hitronics, if I crossed the line and need to be killed or chastised then I will deal with it.
In the mean time santo can take this pail of sand that my kids brought me from the beach and just start pounding it.
Keep asking all you like storyteller.
“The which witch you are” was a sarcastic comment given the witches were individual roles last time. Given that Ploenast has genericised the roles this time round, i would be very surprised if he had a name to his role other than Witch.
I tell you what storyteller, if **Nanook ** has any votes left on him by the end of tonight, I’ll apologise to you for being wrong. Otherwise you get to apologise.
I would guess that Nanook is quite safe tonight. His roleclaim, if scum, has the bonus of trying to out a Witch and getting assumed protection.
If he is a Witch, they have to protect Nanook just in case, so the scum are likely to target other people as they know where the protection is most likely to be.
If he is scum, the other two Factions will assume he is a Witch and repeat above.
Oh no, it’s a good claim. A target on his back? He just bought himself 2-3 more Days in the game at someone else’s expense. Sure, if he is scum we will out him eventually, but the point of the game is for your team to win. Hiding, for example, as a Scotsman or Warlock does not help your team take out one of the major roles on the town side which is a great danger to all scum factions.
Oh and proof.
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Fuck me, storyteller, you are asking for proof on Day 1. Are you fucking kidding me! If you have got something better than gut instinct, at this point in time, I’d like to fucking see it.
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Umm, really. So the fact the Cabal are roleblockers and are capable of roleblocking Nanook, if he is a Witch, leaving him open to be killed tonight escaped your attention.
Oh and your telling the other pro-town roles what to do.
Any further comments?
Santo Rugger - stop metagaming. I mean honestly, asking for the location of the boards. Shame on you, shame on you. 
On a test for Nanook.
Well Nanook, you have claimed Witch, congratulations on your new protection and investigative powers.
So given an highly scientific WAG at the setup of the town, by Day 3 you should have the name of at least one scum and what role they are. I am aware that you cannot reveal pro-town roles, but I doubt you would have any hesitation of a scum role.
That’s my test for you. I want something that doesn’t involve outing the Witches if you are scum, but something you can do if you are a Witch.
Over to you.
anyone got any weighing scales, I’ve got a duck here
Which faction is going to kill him?
Let’s assume (for the purposes of this post) that Nanook is in fact lying. We have four possible “true roles” - Cabal, Werewolf, Undead or Townie with a “safe” claim - that is, one which you can’t easily prove.
If he’s a Cabalist, he’s at risk from either faction. Why did he claim? Apart from the fact that his neck is on the block and this claim buys him a Day or two, he’d like nothing better than to provoke a counterclaim. They have to eliminate two Witches, as well as the other two anti-Town factions, to win.
If he’s a Werewolf, then he’s at risk from the Vampire, but not from the Cabal. Because the Cabal can’t kill. There is a possibility that the Cabal’s secret power gives them the capability to Nightkill - I wouldn’t be surprised if they did in fact have that capability (possibly similar in flavour to the Magician’s redirection).
Finally, the Undead. If he’s a Vampire, then he’s self-protecting. The only role who can kill him is the Vigilante, and no self-respecting Vig is going to kill a claimed Witch on Night 1, because if he finds he is wrong, then he’ll have to kill himself (on Night 3). If, on the other hand, he is the Necromancer, he’s just set himself up as a juicy target to both the Werewolves and the Vampire with no protection and no goal beyond short-term survival.
Finally, of course, he could be a Townie with a “safe” role - that is, one which he can’t substantiate with the results of actions - and have made a judgement that he’s more likely to survive if he false-claims. If that’s the case then he’s at risk from both the Werewolves and the Vampire.
The other question that impinges on this is what is the nature of Nanook’s secret power? If it’s some sort of investigative power, then this false claim suddenly becomes a lot more viable.
In summary; if Nanook is not a Witch, then the level of risk from being targeted by other factions varies, depending on what role he actually holds. We can’t assume that if he survives the Night his claim is true. The chance of it being true goes up a great deal, but he could still be a Vampire.
And the fact that the Cabal cannot block the powers of the Witches has managed to escape yours?
Yup, I was looking at those pesky Witch rules instead of the Cabal ones.
Well, it does mean that one thing I was concerned about in my test no longer applies. That **Nanook ** would get roleblocked and prevent an investigation taking place.
I look forward to the future results.
I find I’m going to be out most of today and tomorrow. So let’s place my vote to make sure I’m not mokilled because of a three-day board death.
I don’t particularly like voting for oneself, so I need a reason to vote for someone else.
One of the metarules of these games is this: Drain Bead is always a Roleblocker.
Vote Drain Bead.
And then, having ensured that I am safe from board outages Today.
Unvote Drain Bead.
Hope that medication problem gets sorted, DB.