I’m not saying that’s what we’re doing already (I mean, it hasn’t even been a day, right?) but that I foresee it being a problem and don’t want it to be.
Well, you are just finally starting to see sense. 
Personally, I feel he’s being corrupted.
By the by, the vote chart is up to date, if anyone would like to pick through and try to find any patterns and such.
I obviously have to reread the roles.
:smack:
I think you may have a point here about my play style. I may be thinking too much along the lines of what would screw the undead over, having played as them in the last game, instead of considering what is best for the town against all 3 scum factions.
On those lines: Roosh, you are a genius. That is an excellent suggestion for Nanook to follow.
Given that a fair amount has already been said there are still a few people who have said nothing and I would be interested to hear from them as well. But don’t forget that we still have several realtime days to go.
I’m not quite sure how to play this. It is a foregone conclusion that Pede will swing at the end of the day so the questions is where to look and how to accomplish anything. As I see it we have two options we can look into the night kills mainly Santo and Brewha and try to figure out what their killers thought they were, we can look into those who didn’t vote yesterday and those nearly modkilled, and finally we can look at Pede and try to figure out who was working with him.
I don’t like the idea of trying to figure out Santo and Brewha because without knowing who even has available kills it is basically impossible to backtrack. Given that scum could have cross killed I don’t really see any benefit in our wasting time until their roles are reveled.
Back tracking Pede might work but there are two problems one being that there are two possibilities where he wouldn’t be working with anyone either he is town or undead. Since he has the ability to kill based on his own admission I believe that this leaves the cabal out of the possibilities. This only allows backtracking to work if he is a wolf and then we would have to believe that the best story that the wolves could come up with was “I randomly decided to kill” I would hope that a group working together could come up with some reasons. Therefore I think he is probably a Vamp and we will again waste time perusing this path.
Unfortunately, the only other option I can come up with involves those that are hanging low and trying to get them to respond to questions so that we can investigate them. But since there is no chance of getting them lynched today I don’t think voting for them has any power so they basically get a free pass for another Day and Night.
Because of this I’m going to suggest that we put Pede on a shelf and try to get some participation from the peanut gallery. There are three options with Pede one is that he is scum in which case we can ignore him and then come back later and lynch him, two is that he is a vig who killed town and he will die without or help on Day 3, three is that he is a vig that got lucky and killed scum in which case we can decided whether to lynch him or not later. But if we allow players to continue to lie low and not participate they get the free days that we are ignoring them and then the time we spend prodding them before they get lynched which could be up to six Days just to get those with no standing votes yesterday not to mention those who avoided mod kill. With that in mind I’m going to;
Vote Hawkeyeop
Genius, schmenius. It’s how I outed myself in the first Conspiracy.
Don’t be a hater. 
Regardless, it is a good plan.
You obviously haven’t played in any games with me. Hatering’s what I do best!
<Snipped all to heck>
And if I have unintentially changed the meaning of your post feel free to correct me.
Couple of things that I totally agree with. story and others of you have gotten almost hero status with the newer players, well at least me. I am not going more specific than that but suffice it to say there are a number of you in this game.
And don’t take this as anything more than an observation. story’s early claim gave pedescribe a limpy out. It also provides Nanook a couple of days if he is not what he says he is. So I am a little confused as to the timing especially since this is an extra long Day. I would have thought that story would have strung this out a wee more rather than doing something that I would have done.
Of course time will eventually settle it all. But because of the delay in information release, what with our claimed Coroner dead (could there be another?), would that be enough of a head start for the scum?
My understanding is that each side has an equal chance of winning. Well we know we have town and cabal (if we believe breha - which I am inclined to do so) so there has got to be at least one other killing faction. But I believe that all four are in this puppy.
The fact that we got a self - voting cabal on day one (odd) followed by a killing role hitting the Warlock on night one (based on a random pick) who happened to delegate his fate to someone who was going to be under a lot of scrutiny toDay just seems too good to be true.
Just set off the bells and whistles in the paranoid portion of my brain.
Now I am off to look for the second Kennedy gunman as well as helping OJ find the real killers.
And I still want to know why Nanook gritched about the low level of votes resulting in a lynch but never put a final vote down. One more odd thing.
Alright, I understand if you all want to lynch me for incompetence (IOW, it was bleeping stupid of me to use my powers) but consider this: except for the unlikely possibility that NBC is scum (and given how this Day is going for me, I doubt fate will be so kind), I’m scheduled for death tonight anyway. If all ya’ll leave off me for a day, you can hit someone else scummy. And if I die, the problem’s solved. If I don’t, and NBC’s town, you can lynch me tommorow, and if he’s scum, you can do whatever.
Anyway, here’s what happened, in script form.
Righty: The hand puppet on my right hand.
Lefty: The hand puppet on my left hand.
Me: Me
Pleo sends me my role pm
Me: Cool! I got a power role! And I can kill!
Righty: KILL!
Righty’s not that well in the head
Lefty: There are a million and one reasons not to, including the possibility of death. Besides, you can’t even kill tonight.
Day 1
Righty: KILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILL
And righty just kept mantraing
Me: Should I mention anything? Eh, I better not, don’t want to give away my role. I’ll just pretend to be vanilla for now.
Lefty: …and furthermore, other people can give good advice, advice not found until late game. And there are no voting patterns, and…
etc.
Night 1
Me: Alright, alright! I’ll kill someone if you two will just shut up! But TONIGHT ONLY!
R&L: Okay.
Me: Now, who should I kill?
Lefty: We should carefully analyze everyone’s posts to give us the best chance of finding scum.
Righty: No! Too long! Just kill!
Unfortunately, the move, which took all last week, meant I only had enough time to follow Righty’s plan.
I wish I was lying, because dang, that was stupid.
Anyway, I’m going to drop it now. If all ya’ll think it’s better to lynch me now, instead of waiting for my suicide tonight, I can’t stop you.
And because I am sans kids and spousal unit for a bit.
You just need to transcend the hatering to endorsing since in your Beta case all was well with the world.
I think we have moved from a theorem to a proof.
The problem from where I sit is that if you are not what you say you are then you will get another kill tonight. Bad ju ju for the town.
And if you are town? You’ve played this game enough to know that a “pro town” vig that has an option, especially with a suicide clause better be committed to their decision. This random nonsense just sinks like a stone.
My two cents.
A) I thought the suicide took two days.
B) I assume (maybe Pleonast can ring in here) that you only commit suicide if you kill a townie. How are you so certain that you’re going to hang, when nobody here knows who NBC is, and his last comment in the thread after his death seems to lean toward the fact that he’s scum?
I’m very comfortable with my vote on you at this point. Every explanation seems to raise more questions than answers.
Nope, tonight I target myself. (Unless NBC is scum).
I suppose he could be scum, but at this point I’m just expecting the worst.
And, again, I can confirm my role tonight. By dying.
Why do you feel it is unlikely that NBC is scum? I think it’s highly probable. I also find it hard to believe you are a pro-town Vigilante because you seem to have no idea how the suicide works if you hit town, and no pro-town Vig in their right mind would have taken out **Storyteller ** last night without a modicum of evidence that he was scum. He didn’t even raise an eyebrow.
I really hope you are not a real Vigilante, 'cause then it would just suck to be you right now.
Oredigger, don’t think I didn’t notice your attempt to table the **pedescribe ** discussion back on the last page.
vote pedescribe
Actually, you wait until Pleo gives up the roles, which isn’t for a little more time than that, i believe
Unlike other Mafia games, only a dead player’s name is immediately revealed. The dead player’s side will be revealed one Day/Night cycle after their death. And their role will be revealed two Day/Night cycles after their death. Because a Witchdoctor may reverse death in some circumstances, you may not be permanently dead. I will notify you of your condition.
The Vigilante does not target himself until the night after the side is revealed.
NBC shows up dead dawn of Day 2
Night 2, Vig does not target himself
Dawn of Day 3, NBC’s alignment is revealed
Night 3, Vig targets himself if NBC is revealed town.
Please correct me if I am wrong here, but that’s how I interpret the ruleset.
The hole keeps getting deeper.
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Fucking pesky rules for you scum, huh.
Since your victim won’t be revealed until manana to give you free reign for another cycle is suicidal.
And now I am convinced that we got us another non town. Random votes and mis quotes of the established rules. I can see one abstaining vote but that would be about it. If this one doesn’t end 26 - 1 or 27 - 0 I am going to be mightily confused.
The only question is whether we got us an Undead or a Wolf or a killing cabalist (unlikely).
And since I believe him to not be the vig, then shoot we’ve got other discussions that will last the rest of this day.