Mafia: Conspiracy 2: The Cabal Strikes Back! [Game Over]

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As well as where mine sits.

And I ran through posts since the night results and here is what I came up with. And if I missed something or counted wrong there is no agenda, just the limitations of the ol’ BB. And I not bolding in the interst of expedience/my sanity.

No vote no post: cog88
No vote: redwing and naf

Posts in the order since the night kills.

Hal 4
Cias 18
Story 17
Dio 19
OD 9
Z 14
Hawk 5
Redwing 2
Koldanar (ck the spelling) 8
Shadow 12
Naf 10
Hockey 15
Cookies 4
Moi 26
Dot 2
DB 7
Ped aka scum in waiting 9
Cck 3
Omink 5
Oaow 8
Roosh 7
Nanners 7
Diggit 6
Mahaye 3
FD 3
Pollux 1

And if abbreviated someone’s handle in a way that offense is taken, let me know and I will not do it again.

And I certainly don’t want to reopen the wound that is “lynch the lurker” (patent pending) but those folks would be interesting to explore if there was anything to explore. :frowning:

I’m thinking that the scum are going to be in the middle of the pack. Not so loud, but not so quiet.

This one counts for a nickel.

Well, I think peeker is right about one thing: we should at least be talking about other people besides pedescribe, even though we’re going to lynch him. So, with that in mind, I’ll mention the things that have fired my neurons so far toDay.

First, NAF raised a red flag for me when he put words in Diomedes’ mouth, and in a way that seemed to be designed to make Dio look bad. I mentioned it first in this post and then responsed to **NAF’s **reply in this post .

I also thought OAOW had a terrible idea about asking pedescribe to give us the “benefit” of scum info, to which I responded here . Bad ideas are not necessarily scummy, I know, but this idea seemed so patently anti-town that it definitely stood out to me.

I also still have some leftover concerns about Oredigger77 from yesterDay.

Is that based on what you said in this post? That seems like a very weak case to me, as I think Oredigger’s mistake re: the quote could be an honest one.

Also worth noting is that Oredigger seems to rub people the wrong way. He had the Town in Doperville absolutely convinced that he was scum when he wasn’t. I don’t know if he’s played in other games with similar problems. I’m not saying that lets him off the hook now if he screws up, but I think it’s a factor that should be kept in mind.

Question and a comment:

  1. It this a straight post count, or did you try to sort out the fluff?
  2. The list would be more helpful if it was arranged in some manner, either alphabetically or by count.

I didn’t try to sort out the “fluff”, kind of subjective based on the judgement of the reader. IMHO. And rather than trying to alphabetize or stack based on numbers I thought that the timing of the posts after the night announcement would be as good as anything.

If I get a chance tomorrow I can do both but on the BB no such luck. Sorry my former scummy friend but I just don’t have the willpower at this point in a three day weekend. Hell, it was all I could do to just wallow through to where I ended up.

And as I make it, discounting the pede man, there are 23 out of a possibe 26 votes on scum daddy. Of those votes 21 were put there as the only vote. Talk about a concensus. I know he is as juicy as a Kobe steak but my goodness this is kind of unheard of.

Almost as much as a slam dunk as the Bush/Gore blow out.

And the other 3 haven’t voted for anybody. It’d be amazing to have an unanimous lynch (including the lynchee!)

You’re right, it is very weak. It’s what I based my vote for him on yesterDay, but that was just Day One, and the bar is pretty low. It wouldn’t be enough for me toDay, even if we didn’t have pede lined up. Nevertheless, it’s still a small point against him in my book, so I mentioned it.

Well, I’m finnaly back from my weekend and it looks like it was about as dead as I thought it would be.

I think the most important thing brought up over the weekend was shelving Pede in favor of finding someone else. I think that now that Pede has admitted I don’t see any other option for this lynch baring someone admitting a more important scum role. I think we still need to get the lurkers to post. But I don’t think we have any way to do that since we don’t have the threat of the lynch. Peeker’s list is as good of one to go by and I want to note that CoG888 is still not active but is managing to stay alive if he squeeks past a modkill I sugest we look long and hard that direction on Day 3.

Thanks for the work on the list, peekercpa. Personally I think you’re right to a point about this, but only to a point. Keep in mind that the scum groups have had time to communicate now, and are almost certainly trying to differentiate themselves from one another. While someone operating solo – say, a Vampire – would do well to stay in mid-pack to avoid too much scrutiny, the Wolves and Cabal are likely to be a bit all over the place in post counts.

I’m not sure how much pure post counts matter in terms of vote strategy, though. I try to make my posts always substantial and to post very little fluff. Put me next to someone who posts 10 fluff posts or “me too” posts and it looks like I’m hiding, when in actuality, they are the ones that have contributed nothing.

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And just so there is no surprise and in keeping with my crotetchy nature. pede is definitely scum me thinks but …

Unvote pedescribe

Vote CoG888

This one is a no brainer. And FCS if there is a Vig take out the scum pede or not. WIFOM you scum bastards.

Duly noted.

That’s why I am not going to be the adjudicator beteen what is fluff and what is not. Merely reporting the facts. And it was the night “fluff” vote that eventually doomed darth in recruitment.

Be vewwy vewwy quiet we’re hunting scum. And if I am even semi - close well then …

I just don’t get this. I mean, I understand that we want people to talk more. But our lynch is our best way of taking care of scum. Why risk having the Cabal block a Vig, or us not having a Vig, in order to go after a possible townie?

Just doesn’t seem right to me.

Postcount to this post: (in order of loudmouthedness)

Peek 30
Dio 21
Cias 18
Story 17
Hockey 15
Z 14
Shadow 14
Naf 10
Ped 9
OD 10
OAOW 8
Koldanar 8
Roosh 7
Nanners 7
DB 7
Diggit 6
CCK 6
Ore 5
Hawk 5
Hal 4
Fluid 4
Cookies 4
Mhaye 3
Dot 2
Red 2
Pollux 1
Cog 0

And just because we have all this time (not so much any more), is anyone else still considering the idea of a mass reveal? I really do think it’d be a great idea at this point: if nothing else, it would stop all the frickin’ roleclaims to forestall lynch. Pin the scum down early, make them live with what they claim.

Double-drive-by-I’m-a-dumbass-post…

I haven’t read anything since Thursday morning.

Gah! In the chaos of working only a half day, from home, on Thursday trying to get on the road at a good time to do the driving for our long weekend…I completely forgot to announce my travel plans and unavailability. And now, fittingly, that unavailability has extended another day due to leaving both of my work laptops, and my cell phone, at my Mom’s house. So now I’ll be spending my Monday driving back across the state (10-12 hour round trip) to pick up everything that I forgot.

Naaah, who would be stupid enough to suggest such an anti-town idea up front :wink:

Ok, the **CatInASuit ** scumlist currently has 4 people on it (subject to change) that I would be quite happy to see Nightkilled by any Vigilante we might have.

  1. OreDigger77. If pedescribe is Cabal as he has stated, then OreDigger’s comment’s on my analysis yesterday become very interesting as he was the only person to really pick it up. His comment that pedescribe had answered all the questions, now looks like someone trying to back up a common faction member. Not to mention his play yesterDay and toDay.

  2. peekercpa. If I didn’t know any better, I would have said it looks like he is trying to get his vote off **pedescribe ** for any reason. Same goes for Oredigger77 at the start of the Day as well. Vote for anyone other than **pedescribe ** citing let the Vig take him out. Is there a Bomb? Who knows?

  3. Koldanar: No response to my query about brewha’s killer. How would he know that analysing brewha’s death would be able to confirm my role?

  4. DiggitCamara: His reasoning for why a possible vampire would take out an alleged coroner seems as though he has tried to find some link, any link and call it reasoning. I don’t agree. I think he knows more about the Night Kills than he should. Not to mention his slip concerning the Witches killing at Night.

Of the list, I would be happiest with **DiggitCamara ** being Vigged overNight.

Whether it will happen or not, who knows, but I have my scum list for tomorrow.

Just one thing: what the hell? This change of vote from self-confessed scum to player-who-hasn’t-checked-in-at-all would be weird in any case - CoG888 could easily be mod-killed, or could easily be a valuable power role, and lynching him/her in his/her absence when we have certain scum on the gibbet already is an awfully big and probably pointless risk (pointless since (s)he may wind up dead no matter what we do).

But it’s even weirder in light of the following quote, from just a few posts earlier:

So, you’re thinking the scum will be in the middle of the [vote count] pack, but you’re voting for the player at the bottom. Which, according to your own reasoning (with which I neither strongly agree nor strongly disagree, incidentally), is voting for a player you think is more likely to be a Townie. And that makes no sense.

A no-brainer? A no-brainer is lynching self-confessed scum. In what way is voting for a super-lurker, who may be mod-killed anyway and who by your own analysis of shortly prior is less likely to be scum than the folks at the middle of the pack, a no-brainer? And what WIFOM is generated for the scum by leaving pedescribe alive? At least some of the killing scum won’t kill him because he’s on their side; if he’s not a Wolf, the Wolves won’t kill him (not good to bite a Vampire, don’t ya know), and the Cabal may not be able to kill him at all. There is no WIFOM for the scum bastards in this scenario.

I’m having a hard time imagining scum being as blatantly inconsistent as you have been, or throwing up as many empty arguments. But “scum wouldn’t do X” has never been a good argument. I don’t know what to make of you right now, and my vote is certainly not moving, but an explanation of - at bare minimum - the gross inconsistency in your last several posts would be greatly appreciated.

A no brainer? Seriously? With a confessed scum at the gallows, you think it’s a no brainer to lynch instead someone who may be scum, but the only “evidence” you have of that is a failure to participate. :rolleyes: