It isn’t so much that you ruined my plan, you just sort of made it impossible for me to get a real idea of what Dio was trying to say from Dio’s own mouth.
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But you did get a response from **Dio’s **own mouth before I jumped in, as I just mentioned.
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At this point anything he says on the subject has to be viewed through the filter of this conversation. I am not saying you did a bad thing, I am just saying that for me now the subject (re: dio) is more or less dead.
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I see your point here, and I agree that I (unintentionally) hijacked your questioning, but my options when I saw what you posted were to 1. Comment on it or 2. File it away for later. But I’m not a Trap Springer ™ - I don’t take detailed notes and file things away until I have a mountain of evidence. I’m far too impulsive for that level of strategy. I much prefer to just call people on stuff when I see it and make them explain.
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That being said, you and I can continue to go round and round if you like, but I am not sure it will do anyone any good.
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You’re right about this, though, I fell like we’ve played this disagreement out. I just had to get the last word in.
Trust: Oredigger77, Peekercpa, Dotchan, Hal Briston, Omi no Kami, Pollux Oil, Darth Sensitive, Pleonast
Distrust: Dotchan, Drainbead, Cckerberos, Koldanar, NaturalBlondChap, Diogenes the Cynic, Pedescribe
Unsure: NAF1138, CoG888, Storyteller0910
:eek: :smack: :rolleyes:
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Well the first thing that I want to comment on is that I have no problem with the scum trusting Darth seeing as how he’s dead but I think distrusting NBC is a bad idea also for the same reason. Beyond that I think this is a very pretty way to get people to use one of your lists as a basis for trusting or distrusting people.
I do have to ask after quoting you why there is a URL in that list of smilies and since it has mscumB in the title I’m not clicking just in case. :dubious:
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There is a level of reading between the lines that you seem to not be doing. There is also a level of forcing someone to talk and explain their ideas by pushing thier buttons that you seem to have defused. Your second linked post removes a lot of other context by snipping individual lines and misses a LOT of what I was saying in my posts as well as what Dio said.
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Christ, NAF. Give it up. In every single post, I made it as clear as I possibly could that I wasn’t trying to smudge story, but that I was trying to forestall reactions like Roosh’s: putting him unimpeachably into the pro-Town camp. If you want to read into what I’ve said more than that, you’re more than welcome to, but I did my damndest to explain in every post that my concerns were long-shot ones. Any smudging of story was purely unintentional, and would be entirely the fault of the person who misread what I wrote.
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Christ, NAF. Give it up. In every single post, I made it as clear as I possibly could that I wasn’t trying to smudge story, but that I was trying to forestall reactions like Roosh’s: putting him unimpeachably into the pro-Town camp. If you want to read into what I’ve said more than that, you’re more than welcome to, but I did my damndest to explain in every post that my concerns were long-shot ones. Any smudging of story was purely unintentional, and would be entirely the fault of the person who misread what I wrote.
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I stopped talking about you a long time ago Dio. You happened to be what I was talking about when a different subject came up with ShadowFacts.
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I stopped talking about you a long time ago Dio. You happened to be what I was talking about when a different subject came up with ShadowFacts.
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Yeah, I’ve been following the thread.
I’m still not sure what grand trap you had planned to out me as the secret Cabalistic Vampwolf Lord, but I don’t think Shadowfacts’ questioning you as to why you were so hot on my trail back there was wrong in itself. You do seem a little more bloodthirsty than normal.
I just noticed that Dotchan is listed twice once under trust and once under don’t also Pede listed himself under the don’t trust list. I have to admit I wish I were scum just so I might understand the list.
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Yeah, I’ve been following the thread.
I’m still not sure what grand trap you had planned to out me as the secret Cabalistic Vampwolf Lord, but I don’t think Shadowfacts’ questioning you as to why you were so hot on my trail back there was wrong in itself. You do seem a little more bloodthirsty than normal.
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Good God really? Has it been that long since we have played in a game together?
There wasn’t any grand trap, I was just trying to get a better feel for what you were saying since you pinged me. Inflamatory language is often a good way to do that. Is this new a strategy to you? (Hint: If you say yes I am going to call BS and ask what you did to the real Dio)
I have been rather transperant I think. Also I have to admit that I was coming off the high of being right about Pede being scum based on similar behavior, as well as my picking out Mr.Blocky as scum in the offboard game (well not scum, I was scum, but he was the equivalent of scum to my team, a non scum anti town element.)
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Good God really? Has it been that long since we have played in a game together?
There wasn’t any grand trap, I was just trying to get a better feel for what you were saying since you pinged me. Inflamatory language is often a good way to do that. Is this new a strategy to you? (Hint: If you say yes I am going to call BS and ask what you did to the real Dio)
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Now that you mention it, I don’t think you and have played in any game where I lasted beyond day two.
And just because I love to employ a given strategy doesn’t mean I think it’s fair for people to try it against me.
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Just one thing: what the hell? This change of vote from self-confessed scum to player-who-hasn’t-checked-in-at-all would be weird in any case - CoG888 could easily be mod-killed, or could easily be a valuable power role, and lynching him/her in his/her absence when we have certain scum on the gibbet already is an awfully big and probably pointless risk (pointless since (s)he may wind up dead no matter what we do).
But it’s even weirder in light of the following quote, from just a few posts earlier:
So, you’re thinking the scum will be in the middle of the [vote count] pack, but you’re voting for the player at the bottom. Which, according to your own reasoning (with which I neither strongly agree nor strongly disagree, incidentally), is voting for a player you think is more likely to be a Townie. And that makes no sense.
A no-brainer? A no-brainer is lynching self-confessed scum. In what way is voting for a super-lurker, who may be mod-killed anyway and who by your own analysis of shortly prior is less likely to be scum than the folks at the middle of the pack, a no-brainer? And what WIFOM is generated for the scum by leaving pedescribe alive? At least some of the killing scum won’t kill him because he’s on their side; if he’s not a Wolf, the Wolves won’t kill him (not good to bite a Vampire, don’t ya know), and the Cabal may not be able to kill him at all. There is no WIFOM for the scum bastards in this scenario.
I’m having a hard time imagining scum being as blatantly inconsistent as you have been, or throwing up as many empty arguments. But “scum wouldn’t do X” has never been a good argument. I don’t know what to make of you right now, and my vote is certainly not moving, but an explanation of - at bare minimum - the gross inconsistency in your last several posts would be greatly appreciated.
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Ok, I think that scum wil hang in the middle of the pack trying to look as centrally bell curve related to appear to be "normal. I do believe that pede is scum and that we have a vig. Therefore the vig can take out pede tonight. I have been very consistent in my vote the lurker pursuit. Ergo, a vote for cog.
Probably didn’t answer all your points but it should at least give you a start.
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I just noticed that Dotchan is listed twice once under trust and once under don’t also Pede listed himself under the don’t trust list. I have to admit I wish I were scum just so I might understand the list.
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I’m reading his posts merely for the entertainment value. To try and extract something meaninful would be building castles on the sand.
And now that I re-read I should have been more more clear on my “slam dunk” since it it merely consistent with previously stated game play strategies. Voting lurkers and trying to stimulate discussion. YMMV
Believe this, if it would ever happen to come down to a horse race and pede and someone else, scum daddy pede gets my vote. However, I would still like for cog to post something for the day.
All thoughts related to pede rated from least likely to most likely, IMHO.
Pro town Vig: I think that he has eliminated this from consideration.
Killing cabalist: If this is true then based on what he said means that the cabal can’t kill again tonight since he would still be alive. Great avatar by the way.
Wolf: story would be a logical choice because of his reputation. And if there was ever going to be a bus then what better choice could there be suspecting that an investigative role is eventually going after him eventually. Makes sense if he has a scum role that investigates as town.
Vamp: See above.
I am still leaving my vote where it is, just because of my prickly nature. I think we have a red and black roulette role on the board. Low risk, low pay off. I’d be willing to go a little riskier for a little better pay off.
However, I do understand some of the conservatism. If this was a 50/50 chance then I understand the conservative play. But as a townie with a 25/75 chance I am going to take some chances on catching favorable runners.
I’m back from my July 4th Holiday, and I’ve handled myself the best I could in my other game, so I guess I’ve just got this game left to devote to. But not really surprised northing’s really been going on.
That said, I am curious about your unvoting of Peds, Peeker.
What do you hope to accomplish by your One off on the lurker. I’ve noted your stance, and it’s all cool. I get it. You believe **Peds **is guilty, but you don’t want to leave a Vote for him. Instead you’re one offing.
Now uh… WHY are you one offing? What’s the point? Why not just state your suspicions for Cog, (Put it in big orange letters as an homage to **Idle Thoughts **if you wish) and then vote for Peds?
Because, right now, I don’t see a sensible reason for what you’re doing. Well, that’s not true. I do see one. It’s a worrisome one, because that’s the sort of behavior that our ever so dear and clever **Storyteller **tried to do during My Batman Game and failed…
So now I ask of you- WHY are you not voting for Peds- do you know something we don’t? I’ll keep it in my records that you’re suspicious of the lurker and all that- but if there is some OTHER reason that you don’t want your final vote on **Peds **by the end of the Day- well, I’m kinda curious to know about it sooner rather than later. Especially if something’s about to go down- there’s already been an odd list posted up by our delightful hangee… and uh, I’m starting to wonder about these sorts of things, Peeker.
So why are you one offing on a Lurker? Do you really think he’s gonna come in and post, and then you’ll go back to voting for **Peds? **Or are you just hoping for the opposite?
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It’s a worrisome one, because that’s the sort of behavior that our ever so dear and clever **Storyteller **tried to do during My Batman Game and failed…
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Could you expand on this comment for those who didn’t follow the Batman game?
I much prefer to just call people on stuff when I see it and make them explain.
