And I have not read a single post for a long time. Yesterday was my wife’s bday and since next year is the big 50 she and her mom were a little weepy about the passing of time. Matter of fact, so was I. Probably had to do more with the effects of some serious 'gritas and watching Old Yeller in the den, however.
Or fucking undead. Am not through with the read through but this just so happened to be number three on my list.
My problem with waiting to lynch Diggit is there is a significant opportunity cost of information. We have a lot of roles that get more information daily here. If we lynch someone else today we are making that decision without all the added information we will have tomorrow. It it certainly possible that come tomorrow we will have another almost certain scum on our hands. It is worth giving up a little bit of certainty on Diggit for the increased likelihood of success in tomorrow’s lynch.
I think we all need to weigh in rather quickly. If the concensus is to stretch wolfie DC as opposed to going for an Undeadly then I’d like to know. It will in fact influence some additional information that can be shared. My friggin’ magic bag.
But it goes different ways pending the DC decision.
I still don’t think that that is the correct decision but you have to play the cards that the dealer gives you.
:dubious:
You want us each to hurry up and make a decision based solely on your word that the outcome of said decision carries (alleged) consequences to the contents of your magic bag, that only you (allegedly) and Pleo (allegedly) know the contents of, because the consensus decision will influence whether additional information does or does not come out of your magic bag. And you have an opinion as to which decision we make. Do I have that right?
If you have information on a definite Undead, you should spill it. If not…well, I’m not sure. I guess it depends on what it is…which is why I hate it when people come out with Magic Bags. It’s a total distraction until the info comes out, so it might as well come out without all the anticipation, you know?
Town can lynch scum every single time and still lose. It’s not just a matter of lynching scum - we have to lynch the RIGHT scum, and they have to help by stepping in and killing one another while we’re at it.
Ok. Lame ass magic bag but it’s all I got.
First
Unvote Drain Bead
Second
Vote DC.
I’d rather vote for a lurker but that has already been discouraged. By a plurality of the players I might add. Scum are at plurality at this point, Me thinks.
Hoping that someone smarter than me can connect the dots. And the reasoning behind a Diggit lynch while less than optimal will now be necessary.
I am a Vicar. My role is becomingly increasingly meaningless. I can only block zombification on the purest luck type of draw at this point.
However, I will remain a conundrum for the rest of the scum factions. If I get killed then you know it ain’t a vamp and CIAS or a witch has a free look.
I really hoped that we could go Nec lynching but you gals/guys are so enamored with detective type powers that apparently we are going down the mindless lynch path.
What the hey, just a different way of playing the game.
And I have one inside straight draw (horrible odds). If DC is not a wolf and is not lynched then I live for tomorrow as a confirmed (maybe) town. And if I end up dead then our remaining investigators can have a field day.
Woot woot, go Town,
Day 1 Final Vote Count:
Darth Sensitive(7): Darth Sensitive, pedescribe, peekercpa, brewha, Redwing, MHaye, storyteller0910
Oredigger77(4): Drain Bead, ShadowFacts, CatInASuit, NaturalBlondChap
Nanook of the North Shore(2): One and Only Wanderers, Omi no Kami
Pollux Oil(2): Oredigger77, Diomedes
NaturalBlondChap(2): Hockey Monkey, fluiddruid
brewha(2): Zsofia, Hal Briston
storyteller0910(1): dotchan
dotchan(1): RoOsh
Hawkeyeop(1): cckerberos
cckerberos(1): **Santo Rugger **
Omi no Kami(1): Pollux Oil
pedescribe(1): NAF1138
Santo Rugger(1): CoG888
No Outstanding Vote: Hawkeyeop, Koldanar, DiggitCamara, NanookoftheNorthShore, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
Day 2 Final Vote Count:
pedescribe(25): Unanimous
Mod-Killed: CoG888
Day 3 Final Vote Count:
Boozahol Squid, P.I. (23): Unanimous
Mod-Killed: Redwing
Town
Wolf
Cabal
Undead
Dead
Dusk Day 4
Role: pedescribe, CoG88
Faction: Boozahol Squid, P.I., Redwing
Dawn Day 5
Role: Roosh
Faction: Hockey Monkey, dotchan
Dusk Day 5
Role: Boozahol Squid, P.I., Redwing
Dawn Day 6:
Role: Hockey Monkey, dotchan
At a guess, there are currently 17/18 town (town + wolf + cabal) against 4/5 undead (undead + zombies) in the game and 20 players left standing. Assuming 1 lynch + 2 Night Kills for the next two Days/Nights gives us
16/17 town vs 4/5 undead Dusk Day 4
14/15 town vs 5/6 undead Dawn Day 5
13/14 town vs 5/6 undead Dusk Day 5
11/12 town vs 6/7 undead Dawn Day 6
10/11 town vs 6/7 undead Dusk Day 6
8/9 town vs 7/8 undead Dawn Day 7
7/8 town vs 7/8 undead Dusk Day 7
This also assumes we do not lynch or kill any undead and that the Necro gets a Zombie raised each Night.
We probably have four lynches and the Wolves have three Night Kills to take out the Necro. Also the Cabal have a chance of blocking the Necro from raising a Zombie, as it is a Night activity, although that is small.
So…a role claim was peekercpa’s Magic Bag? And that’s supposed to tell us something about Today’s lynch…how, exactly? Am I the only one who really doesn’t get what just happened there?
You are going to come back and explain this, right?
I don’t have a lot of time right now, so more is going to have to wait, but this Diggit thing is just not making sense. We must have scum get Night killed in order to win this game. If Diggit is lying, we don’t know it for sure yet, but the real Vig, if there is a real Vig and (s)he is alive, does (I find it stretches credulity to imagine two pro-Town Vigs, frankly). If Diggit is lying, and we have a living Vig, Diggit won’t survive toNight and we don’t have to waste a lynch on him.
Unfortunately, we also don’t really have any other good leads, which I think is why the voting for Diggit has happened as it has.
Dammit.
No you aren’t Drain. We’re still several Days from losing to the Necromancer, and between now and then pretty much everyone will be gunning for him. I just don’t understand why you would claim as you did and then vote for DC. If you truly believe that necro hunting is the best thing town could do right now, why switch votes? Even if no one else in town agrees with you, you not switching isn’t going to hurt anything.
Of course, a Vicar claim with no pressure is the perfect scum move to make. Town will be hesitant to lynch you while the necro is still running around, the claim is practically impossible to confirm, and you have the perfect excuse when you survive the Night, since you can’t be Vamp’d and the Wolves have no reason to kill a Vicar. I especially liked that you made sure to bold the A part of your claim. Pre-emptively protecting against a coutner claim are we? Certainly gives me reason to give you the hairy eyeball.
On the other hand, since there is clearly a necro, there is almost certainly a Vicar. Decisions, decisions.
NETA: In case it isn’t clear, everything after the first sentence was directed at peeker, not Drain.
I’m really going to rain on your parade storyteller.
There is no Vigilante.
Can I prove it - no.
Do I have secret information - no.
Do I know how the game is set up - I have a better idea than most.
Yes, we will lose this game if we get no Cross Kills at Night, but then so will the Wolves and the Cabal.
The Cabal have to get us to lynch all the other groups.
The Wolves cannot afford to just take out the Town.
The Undead can sit back and relax as long as the other three groups fight among themselves.
Also, there are 4 people with factions unknown. Can you say whether they are town/wolf/cabal/undead?
And storyteller, I have at least 2 leads on scum (Omi No Kami, Oredigger77), with 2 other possibles (peekercpa, ZSofia). I cannot believe that you are saying that you have no leads. I am really beginning to doubt you about now.
As the saying goes, you are a much better player than that.
No offense, but what the hell are you talking about?
How could you possibly tell, considering a Vig does not have to kill?
Cat, I’ve just done some high-speed re-reading, and I’m curious about some things:
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You have stated flatly that there is no Vigilante. At post #1617, you speculated idly that Redwing might have been a Vig who suicided, and otherwise suggested that you were giving credence to the idea of a possible Vig. What has changed since #1617 to change your mind so thoroughly.
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You claim to have leads on “several scum.” Just out of curiosity, were you planning to share those with us? Or is your one-line smudge at #1679 the extent of your “leads” on Zsofia and peeker?
Meanwhile, the case against Oredigger was frankly stupid. You want to fall back on that one, go ahead, articulate a reason to vote for him.
In fact, articulate a reason to vote for anyone, apart from vague smudges and investigation results we can’t trust.
And don’t give me that “you’re a better player than that” garbage. I stand by my statement; we have no good leads, because we’ve gotten lazy and let the power roles work for us, and now we’re on the verge of doing it again, but this time it’s suboptimal strategy.
The absence of a Detective counterclaim is the only thing keeping me from voting against you today. If there IS a Detective out there who knows Cat is lying, please at least consider countering; we’re basing 80% of our strategy on his say-so at this point, and he’s acting extremely squirelly as far as I’m concerned.
Give him time - he’s got to make a bunch of shit up! 