Yeah, you might be on to something there.
You’ll note that I was only responding to his comments. Which may also be addressing comments not made, just thoughts people are keeping inside.
Skeez –
At this point I’m doubtful it would be likely to get something that way. Why would a scum player lie? They’ll always know when they were hit, they can construct the stories to match their status at those times.
Weakening players more or less indiscriminately just seems so obviously negative.
To expand on that –
lynches do not appear to be dependent on hit points. We can lynch anybody regardless whether they’ve been whacked or not. But at least some attacks – the townie types I know of so far, plus presumably the one that hit ToeJam yesterday, which does not seem to have been townie – are dependent on hit points as to whether they actually kill somebody or not. So going around knocking 50 hp off this guy and 100 off that other guy (versus not doing so) doesn’t affect our ability to lynch them. But it might affect scum’s ease of killing them. That bothers me.
Yes.
QFT.
Quite Fucking True.
Maybe you’re right, I can think of scenarios where scum might be compelled to lie, but I can’t really get a grasp about how plausible they are, which might be an indication that they are not.
But the position that town players dying is always a bad thing, ignores the possible value of the information generated by the deaths. I would argue that town players dying is worse than scum players dying, but not always worse then not dying.
No, I agree with that; I’m a fan of vigilantism actually.
Take things out of context, much?
Maybe you’re right, I can think of scenarios where scum might be compelled to lie, but I can’t really get a grasp about how plausible they are, which might be an indication that they are not.
Scum is famous for their lying this reads odd to me
But the position that town players dying is always a bad thing, ignores the possible value of the information generated by the deaths. I would argue that town players dying is worse than scum players dying, but not always worse then not dying.
Dead with out sharing ( since in this game you note the reveals are minimal) is never a good thing- so far we have got soldier & good that tells us very little
Yes I am posting sideways. I had a plan of response but when I read the new page I see things I want to respond to while it is fresh
On that last, I’m actually sort of assuming that most townies do start good. All three dead would seem to have gotten that way by order of scum – hence more likely than not, were town. I’ve yet to come across anyone who’s claimed anything other than good (though obviously people would be less likely to, and I’m not sitting on a ton of claims exactly). And the setup sort of implies good as the default townie status (townies can become neutral/evil) … anyway I’m thinking at least for the first couple of days, good=town might be a decent assumption. Anyone wants to tell me I’m wrong, feel free.
Scum is famous for their lying this reads odd to me
Dead with out sharing ( since in this game you note the reveals are minimal) is never a good thing- so far we have got soldier & good that tells us very little
Probably sounds odd since I was responding to this: “At this point I’m doubtful it would be likely to get something that way. Why would a scum player lie?”
Alignment is often good enough.
I also reiterate what I said about Lightfoot yesterday
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14945206&postcount=329And, after a quick reread of her posts today, I note she has posted nothing but item speculation and fluff. Lurking in plain sight.
Balderdash
I responded to your comments after you made them. #336 ( with slightly fewer words than you used to question/vote me.) * Thanks for responding *
Basically, that is what I posted because that is precisely what I was thinking.
You may have noticed that I AM participating in this game ( unlike others)
My shorter posts are added when I have a chance to pop in from work.
Sometimes by the time I get to post what I’ve written ,a page or two have bloomed.
I think out loud- it helps me -and may help others
( should I not add my thoughts just because someone else said / thought the same thing?)
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I can’t believe you’re not getting more flack for this - how would someone know a third party wincon anyway, unless they were third party? And why would they tell someone if so? Not least the “I heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy” stuff. If the person you heard it from was so reliable and townie, then why didn’t they just post this useful information rather than PM it to someone else of unknown alignment?
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The point on Gad I feel is very valid but your dog bone on me is unfounded
Big post brewing. Taking a break to drink some scotch*. If you miss my usual book-style posts, you’re in for a treat.
(*tonight’s scotch will be the Hibiki 12 year. Not truly a scotch at all, the Hibiki is a single malt blended together from over 30 different single malts, many of which are made specifically for the Hibiki and not available outside of the Suntory distillery in Japan.)
Take things out of context, much?
Eh, don’t worry about him. A guy saying “bite me” to my utterly inoffensive remark is clearly just feeling cantankerous. At least he’s participating.
I’m interested in the focus on Guiri by hidden (and not so hidden) forces. First he gets attacked, then he gets healed, and now Big Red Talky Guy is voting thrice for him. Big Red Talky Guy surely doesn’t expect to influence our votes like that, does he? So what was it, a bad attempt at a smudge? Why on Guiri, who actually seems a little less active in this game than in our last? (Then again, with a sample size of two games, I’m hardly an expert on the guy’s usual behavior.)
Correction: Just realized something, that others probably have known all along.
The “Good” in the reveal refers to the “Good” “Neutral” “Evil”, and not necessarily town or scum. Geez could this game possibly be any more convoluted?
Probably sounds odd since I was responding to this: “At this point I’m doubtful it would be likely to get something that way. Why would a scum player lie?”
Alignment is often good enough.
I must say droping the quoted quotes ( that this board does) is an annoyance to me. I do try to add in the tastee bits when I remember they won’t be there.
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Eh, don’t worry about him. A guy saying “bite me” to my utterly inoffensive remark is clearly just feeling cantankerous. At least he’s participating.
I’m interested in the focus on Guiri by hidden (and not so hidden) forces. First he gets attacked, then he gets healed, and now Big Red Talky Guy is voting thrice for him. Big Red Talky Guy surely doesn’t expect to influence our votes like that, does he? So what was it, a bad attempt at a smudge? Why on Guiri, who actually seems a little less active in this game than in our last? (Then again, with a sample size of two games, I’m hardly an expert on the guy’s usual behavior.)
My take is there is a triple voting player (or team). The mod posts such as instructed / or as he sees fit- - monkey wrench anyone?
[sarcasm]and yes, the repeated " bite me" comments are ever so trust inspiring [/s]
Geez could this game possibly be any more convoluted?
I’ll try.
The paper napkin is blue. Chess players, like poker faces, try to protect their kings and queens. Knock twice before crossing the chicken. Shakin’ bacon.
My take is there is a triple voting player (or team). The mod posts such as instructed / or as he sees fit- - monkey wrench anyone?
[sarcasm]and yes, the repeated " bite me" comments are ever so trust inspiring [/s]
In conclusion. Bite me.
Eh, don’t worry about him. A guy saying “bite me” to my utterly inoffensive remark is clearly just feeling cantankerous. At least he’s participating.
I’m interested in the focus on Guiri by hidden (and not so hidden) forces. First he gets attacked, then he gets healed, and now Big Red Talky Guy is voting thrice for him. Big Red Talky Guy surely doesn’t expect to influence our votes like that, does he? So what was it, a bad attempt at a smudge? Why on Guiri, who actually seems a little less active in this game than in our last? (Then again, with a sample size of two games, I’m hardly an expert on the guy’s usual behavior.)
This is the second time in recent memory that you are bringing up previous games behavior and then immediately discount it. It’s bugging me. If I had two votes, I’d vote PetW and Weedy, but if I had 3 I’d vote for you too.