Mafia Reunion Day 5

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@sachertorte

Could you remind me why?

Mainly stems from these two posts.

@Enderw24

The problem is that it’s not. What I’m convinced of is that Crys is lying.

What I’m not convinced of is what to do about it. There’s simply no way for me to figure out WHAT Crys is lying about. Maybe there are only two Cult members and he’s being truthful in his win-con.
Maybe there’s 5 Cult members and the win-con is exclusive and can be stolen from Town.
Maybe something else entirely.

But here’s what I know: Town’s win condition is to kill off all scum. Period. Game ends there. So lynching someone I believe to be 3rd Party does not help Town get closer to its end goal. Leaving them alive has the possibility of biting Town in the ass later on. But because I don’t know HOW it will bite us in the ass, I’m not sure what to do to play around it.

As I mentioned before, I haven’t actually read Sach’s claim. I need to do that. Probably before going further in this thread.

But Crys can be lying even with corroboration because if there are two people on the same team working towards the same goal, of course they’re going to corroborate each other’s stories…even if those stories are completely made up.

I’m also not arguing with you about the “finding teammates” power or “survival” wincon as possibilities. You’re right. They’re pretty well established win conditions.

What I’m asking is this: When you have a faction of 7 Mafia and a faction of 7 Wolves, does an additional 5 person third party make sense? That’s not a small number of people. Right now I’m going with the theory that the only reason two people have stepped forward as members of this “cult” is because that’s all there are in this game.

I also put “cult” in quotations because I ask your experience on this. In most other games, wouldn’t a cult indicate a group that tries to bring players over to their side? But the rules specifically state that alliance switching won’t happen this game.

I also ask this: if the win condition is truly to just survive to the end…why the need to investigate anyone? Why any power roles whatsoever?

What if their win condition was something like “ensure the lynching of X number of Town, Wolves, & Mafia.” That would be a reason to need investigation powers.
Anyway, that’s all just food for thought. I want to read Sach’s claim but as i said repeatedly, I don’t think lynching 3rd party advances Town’s goals. So my focus is better served on voting for people I think are scum.

@Enderw24

Not soft claiming anything. Do I know through in-game knowledge or powers that he’s lying? No.

But the claim, taken as a whole, does not make sense. I broke it down further in other posts. I do not know which part is the lie or how it affects Town, but the story he’s telling does not work when you put the pieces of his claim together.

If you look over all his posts, there’s not a lot of other stuff there. Decent number of posts, but not a ton of meat.