Sorry. was with wifey for dinner and a show. Early anniversary thing (15th is the actual day). I’ll try and put some thoughts down and answer some questions before bed though.
I admit my town lean of prof isn’t nearly as strong it was the other Day. But, despite others saying it doesn’t happen, I still feel like he hasn’t been conferring with anyone before posting. I know it happens, at least in a general way, since I do it when scum.
I would have liked to have read his leans n final thoughts before bed, since I probably won’t be around for EoD. But it’s obvious that lynching him won’t require my vote, barring crazy shenanigans.
If he flips town, I’ll not have that terrible feeling I get when I murder a fellow townie.
If he flips scum, I understand I’ll look pretty bad. But as town, I welcome the scrutiny. You can be sure scum will see me as easy target to build shitty cases on toMorrow, so if I do end up getting lynched, town will have good leads. Hopefully.
It’s evidence of him misrepresenting his reasons for “abandoning” LtL on Giraffe, nothing more. It’s kinda difficult getting evidence for that from somewhere else than Giraffe. He’s been questioned on this several times already and I feel he’s been dodging, so I felt compelled to dig out the posts. I still haven’t gotten an answer for why he felt it necessary to add reasons for why he abandoned LtL on Giraffe, reasons that were never mentioned at the time. Somehow those reasons make LtL more viable here, I have no clue as to why, but allright, fine, I don’t care. Misrepping yourself I do care about.
Fair enough, but to know who we’re up against, you wouldn’t need to list the town roles, unless you have a cunning plan on how they can be used. It pings.
Yeah, I guess it’s his closing speech, but there’s no reason for town to sow confusion, or hint at another role, I think I’m leaning back to him being some sort of non-town.
Well, there’s the rub, why do you have a few candidates for Batman - exactly what do you hope to achieve? You say that Nanook is not a mason or wolf - why mention the mason bit? You list out a bunch of players who are either not, indicatively, or suggestively wolves, but not a single mafia lean, and not a single mention of potential or not cultists - seems like a very specific focus on votes from a very specific lens.
Here’s your original vote:
And then your unvote references other players’ experience with him:
You quote several posts: Texcat and Plumpudding say THEY would never have investigated Prof. P, sache says his personal take is that there was no investigation but it’s plausible, and Lightfoot argues the opposite? So who exactly convinced you to unvote? I note that you then hold onto the possiblity to revote someone you kinda think is town if his lean list is weak - honestly, how do you expect Prof.P.'s lean list to be after his play this entire game?
You misread me, I see the evidence, it’s the change from earlier, when you were reluctant to link to external sites to bring evidence about Colby and even added a disclaimer, but now you have no qualms about bringing evidence about Prof.P., a big change.
And I did look up Total again, this was the exchange regarding Boozy’s slip:
From the biggest of pings to a tingling feeling, once the pressure was off Boozy? Drain did a WoW on Total on D2, and I was pinged by her stirring the pot and there are quite a few interactions with or related to the known wolves:
Not voting Colby for the slip, alongside Bill - as Drain pointed out
Encouraging Boozy voters to look at ToeJam for similar behavior, then backing off from both cases entirely
The whole Septimus soft claim thing
Comments on her own playstyle but is unwilling to consider meta for other players
Drop in participation as noted by Drain post Septimus claim, got too much attention to early
D3 Follows Paul’s vote on Prof.P., avoids Squid (#871)
D4 vote on Diggit based partially on his vote on Thing Fish based on a list of leans with no info, her double down in #292 for his vote on Boozy
Her D4#169 to Paul about Prof.P being mafia and wolves wanting to kill him
I’d be happy voting for any of you guys: Total, Snfaulkner, HookerChemical, Lightfoot, & Plumpudding but I realise it’s yet another one off.
Vote Total
Of the lynch contenders I’ve discussed Prof. P., don’t think Paul is scum, think sache can wait, don’t support the case on Johnny, am on the other side of the votes by SNF and Hooker, so that leaves TexCat - next to review.
So, yes, my last post was a paraphrasing of Tom Joad’s speech at the end of Grapes of Wrath. It was his goodbye speech, and that’s the only relevance. No claim for me except Vanilla Town.
As I promised, here’s my leans with only a few hours to go:
Paul is Town. He’s very, very, very Town. No Scum needs to put in so much work in this game, nor attempt to micromanage the conversation so completely. He’s Town.
Biotop is Town. I wasn’t at all sure until toDay, but toDay he came up with The Plan. When Biotop comes up with The Plan, it’s a pretty good bet he’s Town. The Plan is always a great notion, but falls down because it requires Town to work together. We don’t do that so well.
Johnny Bravo – lean heavily to Town, and I agree with all or nearly all of what he’s said toDay. Listen to this guy. Look at the low count posters. Don’t trust the claimed 3P’s (sachertorte and Crys). My gut says they are hostile.
Inner Stickler & Koldanar – I’m guessing they are also hostile 3P’s for their attempts to attack Johnny Bravo.
Plumpudding – leaning Town. He grabs a case with both hands and his teeth and won’t let go. Sorry if my nostalgic turn to LtL has caused you grief, my friend.
Raventhief – leaning Town, but no real proof why. I’ve just got a braincrush on her.
TexCat, snfaulkner, Hooker and Guiri – seemingly Town but there’s almost certainly a Mafioso (or two) in there. My reasoning is this: it has been bruited about that, if I am Scum (I’m not) then I am not Wolf, but Mafia. Mafia knows I’m not Mafia, hence it advances one’s position as Town to be proven correct when I flip Town. If they are all Mafia, this game’s over.
Sinjin, Cookies, Cygnus, Hoopy, Nanook, Zeriel, bufftabby and Total – I confess, I have no idea; neutral lean.
LightFoot – really happy to hear about your hubby. Great news! LightFoot has a Scum tell: she rarely votes to lynch me when Scum. So, Town lean.
MHaye – Scum lean, but I’ll be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.
Meeko – neutral lean; glad I could help; IIRC, he’s been in the process of moving. In danger of ModKill.
Captain Klutz, Khameleon, Hawkeyeop – general Scum lean.
Lakai, Ender, Hal Briston, nesta, Scathach – Scum lean mainly for very low posting; some may be ModKilled.
So, what else?
Oh, yeah, Town’s too easily distracted by the easy vote. Brewha’s vote for lying, Idle’s vote for being irritating, the vote on me for Pleonast’s unfortunate votes on me before dying, all these caused discussion on scum-hunting to be quelled. I know I’m bad at scum-hunting, but that doesn’t mean everyone else gets a pass.
So, happy trails to you until we meet again,
Happy trails to you, keep smilin’ until then.
Who cares about the clouds when we’re together?
Just sing a song and bring the sunny weather.
**** Vote Count**
ok there might be one more, but it’s unlikely
Professor P. (14)
Hawkeyeop(6), paulwhoisaghost(19), Lakai(50), bufftabby(57), sinjin(104), biotop(129), captainklutz(138), cometothedarkside(192), khameleon(201), mhaye(224), lightfoot(230), Cygnus42 (353), Nanook (395), koldanar (431)
**Texcat(2) **
Plumpudding(38), Hoopy(229)
**Nanook(2) **
sachertorte(225), Hooker Chemical (253)
**Paulwhoisaghost(1) **
Texcat(22)
Khameleon(1)
snfaulkner(231)
Sachertorte (1)
Johnny Bravo (296)
Johnny Bravo (1)
Inner Stickler (314)
Total Lost(1)
Guiri (429)
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Day ends on Sunday, February 12 , at 3:00
Right now Prof P will die unless crazy stuff happens.
No secondary lynches toDay.
Our countdown clock seems to be broken right now, but there are only a couple hours left. Some of you are fixing to die by mod kill at Day break so…post em if you got em. Remember, no subs anymore. Just death.
Story is bringing the thunder with end of Day color. Be there or be square.
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If anyone knows these people outside of the game you have permission to contact them and let them know that they have until Tuesday to post something or they are modkilled and automatically lose.
I appoligize for my lack of particiapation. I thought I knew what I was getting into, but I’ve had a hard time keeping up, and because I haven’t had a good understanding of the game I haven’t been partipcating. Sorry.
Yesterday I had a strong ping from TexCat, so I’ve spent the last week going through her (I hope the pronoun is correct) posts. I only made it through Day 2, but here we are at the end of Day, so I figure I should post what I have.
WoW through D2. I don’t know how you all do a WoW in a few hours… I think I’m doing it wrong. Maybe because I keep getting distrated by the context, but I think I have a better understanding of what was going on in the game after looking into TexCat’s interaction during the first two days.
Day 1
D1#29Votes Normal Phase “Oh heck, this is as good a starting vote as any.”
D1#31Clarifies voted Normal for editing. “I don’t approve of editing.”
D1#91Votes Colby11. Points out his saying “the other team” when talking death color.
D1#187 “@Hooker. Only 1 Patsy. And she should claim.”
D1#315Quotes confirming opinions on Colby, and finishes with “Is Colby trying to lurk this away?”
D1#359About using logged in meta information: “I refuse to even look at or consider this kind of evidence.”
D1#452To Angel about her not reading the rules. “In fact, there’s not much I wouldn’t put past a scum!Angel to do.”
D1#510Fluff as far as I can tell. To septimuis about Meeko’s acronyms.
D1#713Confused by day and night stuff. Is Septimus deciding who to protect right now?
D1#759Haven’t heard much from Colby, which bothers her.
D1#760Reply to Scathach voting for her for pointing out Colby’s scum slip since TexCat knows Colby’s tendancy to get lynched. Justifies vote as a vote on scum rather than Angel’s anti-town play or for lurkers.
D1#765Back to Scathach, says if they are more suspicious of something else perhaps they should vote there. Misunderstands that the “shitty D1 vote” comment wasn’t referring to her.
D1#788Joking about her reason for Colby are better than Lakai breating weird.
D1#865Asks “Who is the smart ass wolf?” in repsonse to “Town the other White Meat” vote count ad.
D1#874Advocates the Patsy claim so scum can’t claim it, and so investigators don’t waste an investigation.
D1#947Claims not 3rd party. Reafirms vote on Colby for misrepresenting Brewha’s post.
D1#1269Not sure what conclusisions can be reached based on Lakai lynch. Thought Lakai looked scummy, but left vote on Colby who still looks scummy.
D1#1276Watcher info would be helpful now, and hopes they are leaving crumbs.
D2#48Reply to Sunny Daze, who lamented the suspicion on Colby and his subsequent night kill. Says “Or perhaps Colby should defend himself, quit lurking, and do some scum hunting.” Worried about the quick bandwagon on ToJam and asks someone to summarize the case on him.
D2#88Defends Colby suspicion, saying Colby screws up as both town and scum, and that he tried to lurk it off, and his vote for Brewha was bad. Says jsgoddess calling a policy vote is just wrong.
D2#133Misunderstood jsgoddess that the policy vote comment was about the vote on Normal Phase. Says addressed how Colby was scummy in in this game.
D2#224Asks Brewha if his switch PM says anything about other people with switches.
D2#232Quotes mod info about switches and says it doesn’t match Brewha’s claim, due to toggles. Aks Brewha to post switch PM.
D2#301Batman should try to hit scum rather than anyone he thought was town. Not inclined to think Brewha is scum.
D2#304NETA: Number one rule of gun safety: Always point the muzzle in a safe direction; never point a firearm at anyone or anything you don’t want to shoot.
D2#542Clarifies jsgoddess misunderstanding on policy vote. Somewhat anti multilynch since usually successive lynches have more information.
D2#564Discusses Brewha claim with jsgoddess, “I can’t see a scum motivation for Brewha lying here.” Not against second lynch, it’s just not as as lynches on succsesive Days.
D2#569Asks Crys what the investigation results look like.
D2#605Points out that Crys is claiming non-exclusive wincon.
D2#612Asks that since Crys only gets LUTHA/non-LUTHA results, why did Crys think she could sort out Brewha.
D2#633Unvotes BillMc, votes snfaulkner for editing, accusing him of “super secret cultist message to Crys”.
D2#968Asks Johny Bravo what the benifit of lynching Sachertorte over Crys is? Reconsidering Crys vote, not sure if leaving 3rd parties alive is a good thing.
D2#986Explains Brewha switch claim ,“Brewha knew that was not true.”
D2#1313Cautions against assuming those with the same views are on your team.
Yesterday I was pinged hard by her:
My impressions of her D1 play is that she had a lot of short posts, many casting suspicions one way or another, but never delving into anything. She was the first to call out Colby’s “slip”, which would normally be a null tell, but it was pointed out that she knew Colby’s tendancy to post things that seemed scummy.
An interesiting sidenote is that TexCat got into a bit of a scuff with Sachertorte D1 about his vote on her, because he also said he was more suspicous of those that “doubled down” on weak votes. TexCat seemed to take offense at that, even though it wansn’t directed at her, and jsgoddess defended TexCat against the accusastion.
D2, she continues to hover around the edges, asking for clarification rather than stating a case:
She votes BillMc, which is intersting, because with the lack of bussing this game would make me think she isn’t a wolf. But jsgoddess defended her, which hinted at TextCat being a wolf.
I want to review the rest of the Days, but I think TexCat is scum. So: