Mafia Reunion - Day One

[nesta]

Hi everyone. It’s great to see so many names from way back. Thanks to the Mods for letting us latecomers in.

Sorry to see Dante go. I spectated a few of his games on GB and was looking forward to playing with him. I hope everything is OK.

@Zeriel

@sachertorte

Okay. This night is kind of boring, so it’s story time with Uncle Sachertorte:
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Just before Monk sachertorte left, Monk nesta was forced to claim :eek:
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Monk nesta was viciously murdered by scum
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Endgame Monk Cometothedarksidewehavecookies has to choose who is the final scum, rereads the entire game and nails the last scum.

[At least, that’s how I remember it ]

The only part I don’t like is that you didn’t remember me, because I was also a Monk but claimed without revealing anything else because you weren’t back yet and Cookies was staying quiet. Eventually scum killed me too, and then Idle felt safe coming out with his claim…right into the Cookies counterclaim. Then zuma tried to claim monk while scum as well–and screwed it up big time by posting drunk, IIRC.

@sachertorte

Yeah. Sorry about that. I was walking home, and my error hit me. I don’t know why I got you confused with nesta.

It was a long time ago, and my memory is poor, but I don’t think I was part of Monkgate. I remember it, but I’m not even sure I was in that game or just spectating. You might be conflating that game with another, where Cookies did end up in the final three with scum me and DiggitCamera (I might be mangling that name horribly), and chose correctly. In that game I was town until recruited at the last minute by the final remaining scum, Blaster Master, who was going to be lynched the next Day. That game is why I’ll never sign up for one where recruitment is on the table. Anyway…

@Captain_Klutz

Another consequence of multiple scum groups:

A scum under lynch pressure may claim a town power role, in order to provoke a counterclaim. However, there is less need to counter, as by claiming they have made themselves a target for the other scum group. So just leave them be and allow the other scum to take care of them.

Although a downside to not countering is that town protective roles may waste their ability on someone who is actually scum. So I suggest that, if scum do claim your role, consider whether staying hidden would be better than immediately counterclaiming.

I like this post. I hadn’t thought of this angle, and despite the WIFOM aspect, I think “scum wouldn’t post this”. I’m not sure I agree with counter claims holding off, but it’s an interesting thought that I don’t think scum would want to bring up. Thinking out loud here:

Pros:

[ol]
[li]The second scum team might kill the false claimer, saving us the trouble.[/li][li]The player with the power role gets to stay hidden.[/li][li]The false claimer will be forced to share false actions and results which we can analyze for information.[/li][li]Eventually the false claimer will be outed, either through a later true claim, or from death reveal. I don’t think a false claim can last to the end game.[/li][/ol]

Cons:
[ol]
[li]The docs might protect them, negating the most obvious pro of the other scum team killing them. This is a bad WIFOM situation for the docs, of whether to protect a claimed power.[/li][li]If they claim a cop or watcher or something, we might trust their “results”, leading to a mislynch.[/li][li]A later claim by the true role will be distrusted because they didn’t immediately claim, leading to a mislynch.[/li][/ol]

It’s something for our power roles to think about. Kudos to Captain Klutz for seeing the possibility.