Burby? Is that suburban plankton?
Wait. When did I say the ToeJam votes were “entirely spearheaded by Town”? I don’t believe I did say that. I said that the late swing towards ToeJam AS A WHOLE wasn’t scum motivated, and you are twisting that to suggest I said that every single one of those voters were Town?
The presence of two scum teams makes gross vote manipulation less likely, not more. Each team has only seven members, so to believe with brewha that scum moved the Lakai vote ahead of Colby, you would have to believe that almost all of the wave of voters which took Lakai from 7 to 14 votes were members of the same scum team, none of whom had previously put any effort into building a counterwagon to Colby.
You’re right. Retracted with apologies. (Where’s the “hug it out” smiley?)
Yeah, that’s me.
Why not planky? Or ankty?
Feel free to ignore these questions.
I can freak Cookies out with my memory… If my memory serves… But I’m not sure I want to do that. Something about the Supereme Court, and Cinnamon. :eek:
Unless I totally misremembered Cookies. That could happen too. I don’t know… I meet someone, and if they remind me too much of someone else, my brain kinda kicks the person I knew longer “out” of my brain.
Well, now those names would just be silly, wouldn’t they?
Yes, they’d be right out.
Thing Fish, I think making too many assumptions can expose Town to increased risk. I try to mitigate that risk by not making prematurely narrow assumptions in particular. I think this is a similar strategy as to why you suggest that people should avoid too much conjecture as to who Scum attacked or why, don’t you think?
I have no idea who first coined ‘burby’ but I am suddenly curious and may go play with some way back searches.
Unauthorized Cinnamon was going to be my band name. Hat tip to a Deadwood episode with that title and plot point.
Speaking of band names I just accidentally came up with while describing some shitty bar where I was supposed to meet someone: Infectious Anus
How about Sburplkty?
This is really *really ****REALLY ***not cool.
And on reading further you retracted. To be clear it isn’t cool for anyone…Meeko, you, whoever…
Yes please let’s avoid the political road lest we forget what we are supposed to be doing.
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I remember it as being Peeker. (But my memory is notoriously full of holes and made-up stories.)
While I recognize that it’s dangerous to look too deeply into the Scum’s reasons for picking a particular target, because maybe that’s just what they want you to think!, I think that Towns in general have swung too far in the other direction: Scum do have reasons for the targets they choose, and those reasons are often simple enough to figure out, and if we can figure them out, it can be helpful.
That said, though, in this case I don’t think it does help us. Being the most prolific poster and yet not being particularly suspected by anyone is plenty enough of a reason for the Scum to choose to target someone.
On another note, I’ve been thinking about the Scum protector roles, Bodyguard/Beta. Someone correct me if I’m wrong on this, but do those roles seem kind of useless? For simplicity of terminology, I’ll refer to the Bodyguard, without loss of generality: Suppose that the Bodyguard finds some person whose life they consider worth more than their own (I’m guessing the Godfather, but it’ll almost certainly be a Mafia member). So they target that person. And suppose that someone who wants Mafia dead (i.e., anyone who’s not Mafia) then targets that person for a kill. Well, that someone who wanted a dead Mafia still gets a dead Mafia, maybe one that they hadn’t even suspected at all. And knowing that the person they targeted didn’t die, and that the Bodyguard did, they’re going to figure out what happened. And then the next Night, since they want dead Mafiosos, they’re going to target the same person again, who this time won’t be protected, and will die as normal.
In other words, the net result of the Bodyguard using his power is that two Mafia members die, instead of just one, including the one that he was trying to protect. Yeah, one of them was delayed by a turn, but that probably doesn’t matter unless we’re so close to endgame that the game would have ended in between… and if the game’s that close to over, the power probably still doesn’t matter. When would this ever be worthwhile for Scum to use?
Thanks for spelling that out for me. When I made my comment, I hadn’t done the research to see where the Lakai bandwagon came from. And yeah, since we now know NormalPhase wasn’t working with scum intentions, it really muddies the waters.
So, I agree that Colby comes out of this mess looking much less scummy since there isn’t a real plausible explanation for the way the votes came out if his scum buddies were protecting him.
Yeah - same here. Pop up that made my phone vibrate and warned me that I had to install an antivirus app. I’ve had pop ups on the site before - but they open in a new window so I can close them and still read the thread.
I really hope they get it sorted before next weekend.
This seems most likely. We know it’s possible. It’s also possible that third parties had a hand, but there are a lot of unknowns if we head down that path.
I agree that the voting suggests that the ToeJam run wasn’t scum driven, but I think you’re overstating the case. There’s a gulf between “we know” and “it suggests.” Also, the threshold for “no scum bandwagon” is greater if scum were voting for Lakai. It seems likely this is the case. It’s also possible that scum saw that the vote on ToeJam was unlikely to upend the results and decided it was a good place to park the vote. (i.e. They thought it was better to vote for a contender than to lodge what could be interpreted as a vote dodging responsibility.)