Mafia Reunion - Day Three

Got it, I’ve never experienced it but I don’t doubt it happens.

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One more add to this, the post I’m talking about wasn’t general blah blah. IT was the Big Reveal of him catching up and analysis.

The whole post is so wrong, but I just wanted to comment on this bit.

Apparently, Day 1 and Day 2 have not enough data for good cases, but Day 3 is when good cases can be made. And here it comes: the scum are (…drum roll…) the low count posters. Seriously??

Some others have commented that scum are more likely to be better represented in that group, but I actually think the opposite is the case. Scum have an exciting role and get to scheme and plan on their own secret board. They feel involved in the game. Conversely, vanilla town can feel like very minor players, and allow the game to overwhelm them.
Returning to Prof. Pepperwinkle’s entire post, it is so bad that it is almost too scummy to be scum. But certainly FOS Prof. Pepperwinkle

I am rereading D2 through search and I see that ToeJam was around at EoD and aware of his danger. I stand corrected, it does seem odd he didn’t claim then.

Ok, I’m about to step up my sleuthjuice rations…I can’t promise to try to cut down on jabbering idiocy, but I’ll try to try.

  1. The mods have already stated that switches are not revealed on death.

  2. I wouldn’t put good odds on that, as I just posted a short time ago. Even if they are over represented, lynching from that pool will still likely result in a town death, as I said in #119

I won’t be voting Toejam for the moment, and Idle Thoughts might be handled by the mods. So

Vote Boozahol Squid

Ok… I went back and searched D2 for “cultists” and reread a good chunk of the Day through that lense. I want to preface this post by saying that, to be fair, I was neutral at best about the cultists and was very skeptical, my following suspicions and leans are based solely on the players’ posted thought at the time. I understand an evolving perspective, so if your position on the matter has changed, please let me know. I haven’t done a reread of D3 yet with this new focus.

Cultist Pushers (The people who seem to be in favor of lynching 3P.)

JohnnyBravo (Thinks it’s a scum ploy but in D2#960 seems to discount a scum ploy and in favor of letting the cultists live. Then suddenly in D2#990 he thinks its a scum ploy and wants to lynch one of them. To be fair, I thought of this possibility to, but I think it highly unlikely.)

Enderw24 (hostile 3P theory…sorry, it’s not a theory, he KNOWS)

Prof.P. (Though he did move his vote to Idle)

SNF (D2#927)

Scathach (D2#959, wants to lynch Crys to test Sach’s claim, votes Crys.)

Town Leans based on Cultists Issue

HookerChemical (D2#988)

Sunny Daze (D2#932)

Captain Klutz (D2#950)
Again, these are impressions from D2. I think, for example, that SNF’s position on the matter has changed. That may also be true of others, I intend to continue this through D3, but I need to get some sleep and wanted to post what I had.

I do believe at least one of the claimed cultists needs to die sooner than later, but ideally as a 2nd or 3rd lynch if available. Scumbos should be top priority for now.

Commenting on point 2:

I don’t know what you mean by “Wouldn’t a reveal of the switch help us see whether or not a living townsperson holds a similar switch?”

Crys75 has already revealed what switch she has. Whoever holds the other one is free to mention it. But note that we don’t have any information on the distribution of the switches, so inferring alignment (or hostile/non hostile) from switch possession would be reckless. Tell me, DiggitCamara, what would you conclude if the other switch were held by:

  1. Scum
    2 Town
    3 Third party

snfaulkner, I have played games where scum discuss posting in general, and may run a fake claim post by each other, or some other major ploy, but it has not been my experience that a single post like Prof Pepperwinkle’s is something I would de facto expect to have been discussed on a scum board. This “signing off on” scum posts and “making” someone fake claim you speak of is foreign to me.

This is wildly misrepresenting the whole thrust of my attitude towards the cultists. If you were doing a keyword search for “cultists,” why didn’t you start on my first post using that keyword in #715? Or (if you’d bothered to follow the thread of the topic that you are rereading back just a little ways) even the first time I mentioned the cult at all in #610?

There’s no “sudden” change in my attitude towards these guys.

In D2#960 I used the phrase “if they are real” twice, and I’m discussing the cultists in the context of my plan, the entire point of which is to confirm that the cultists are not scum. Post D2#990 is me clarifying a facet of that same plan.

You said you did a keyword search for “cultist” in D2 but then, in your analysis, you excluded posts of mine that included that keyword. You used the word “suddenly” to try and paint a clarification of an existing conversation as me being wishy-washy, when I’ve been damned consistent in my opinion of what to do with the cultists. The only thing that’s changed is my agreement that if all five cultists were to claim, lynching one would be unnecessary, but that’s 100% consistent with my initial desire to confirm them as being an actual 3P rather than masquerading scum.

So - what the hell? I’d say that skimming is a scum tell, but you did a keyword-based reread and managed to completely misrepresent even the posts of mine that involve the keyword.

Any particular reason?

**I like Boozahol, so he is mod-protected.

Kidding. His votes were on the bottom of my document and did not paste when I copied and pasted.** :slight_smile:

**Please check for accuracy.

Vote Count:

ProfessorP(10) - Texcat(278), jsgoddess(332), paulwhoisghost(343), pleonast(345), innerstickler(347), lightfoot(354), Hockeymonkey(367), toejam(408), bufftabby(420), biotop(458)

Idlethoughts(4) - Sunnydaze(182), raventhief(207), Halbriston(300), professorp(398)

Boozahol(3) - Hoopyfrood(286), angelofthenorth(303), Captainklutz(487)

Tojeam(3) - Hookerchemical(9), billmc(23), sinjin(53),

Sachertorte(1) - Johnnybravo(14),

Enderw24(2) - Nanook(28), Crys75(34)

Thingfish(1) - pleonast(141)

Pleonast(1) - plumpudding(222),

Khameleon(1) - Meeko(319)**

I apologize to Town for my bad playing. But I am Town.

FWIW I’m beginning to believe you, Prof.

The effect of having two scum teams seems to be that everyone piles on town.
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And I’d really, really like to see the one-offs take a stand on someone who has a chance of being lynched.
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vote: Crys75

I’ve drank hospital coffee stronger than the cases currently being leveled against **Idle **and Prof. Pumpernickel. I’ve never voted for a non-counterclaimed doctors, and I’m unlikely to break that streak for Toejam. The best that I can see right now is to lynch one of the third party contenders, and if we’re going to have only one of the two around in the endgame, hopefully helping Town, I know sache is a very strong/dangerous player. That leaves Crys75, I’m afraid.

If you want to lynch one of the 3P players, please go back to my reasoning about why it’s better for us to lynch Sachertorte. It’s D2#990.