Hey, I don’t mind a Zoggie lynch. I wouldn’t even mind going back and looking at HazelNutCoffee again.
One of these days, I definitely think we ought to get around to investigating CatinaSuit very carefully as well.
But… we have a scum, right? Why would we lynch an unknown when we can take down one of the baddies? That’ll drop the Wolves numbers to two (right, Hockey… five to start: MHaye, fluiddruid, Fretful Porpentine, plus two more), and move us one step closer to ending this. Unless we have a hotline to the Undead like we do to a Wolf, I can’t see any better lynch option than MHaye.
Precisely why I want to have some meaningful discussion today. The Pros are that we get confirmed Town that we know not to lynch, thus narrowing our Scum Pool, and the benefit of any investigations they have had, further narrowing our scum pool. It feels early yet in the game, but take a quick look at the number of us left. We are squarely in mid-game now, and this could be a turning point.
If they do not wish to claim, that is perfectly understandable. However, if they have investigated a Vampire, I think that would be information the town badly needs so we can cut the night kills in half and give us time to root out the remaining Wolves. Killing, MHaye would be a good thing, don’t get me wrong, but if we have a known Vampire, we can go from two kills per night to one. And, I will be able to determine the killer. (If I’m not blocked or otherwise incapacitated - read: eaten).
All right… I’d like to get some confirmation from my partner before I do this, but I won’t be able to do so until toNight. The Cauldron closes at daytime, don’t you know.
I am a Witch.
We witches have done reasonably well so far this game, we discovered fluiddruid was a wolf, and I managed to start a bit of a bandwagon on her yesterday with nothing other than that knowledge. I mean, her scumtells certainly weren’t anything I’d lynch over if it wasn’t for that fact. Last night, we investigated CatinaSuit. I honestly thought he’d come back town, but it turns out he’s one of the Undead. My earlier post in voting for MHaye was an attempt to get some sort of reaction out of my co-Witch, but I’m starting to think it won’t matter. I think the town might just be able to win this one with the information we have so far.
Players cleared by Witch Investigation so far are BlasterMaster and ShadowFacts. While either one of them could be an Omega Wolf (we’d get back a Town read on him), both of them were vital in lynching Wolf fluiddruid yesterday, so I’m guessing that they’re actual town roles.
I’m fairly certain we can clear sachertorte as the real coroner as well, as **Rysto ** was, in fact, a Witch. His instructions for to Idle to talk to him last night essentially cement his claim in my eyes. Rysto will be revealed as a Witch tomorrow morning, which should confirm me in everyone’s eyes as well.
For those of you counting in the home game, that’s four investigations (Blam, Shadow, fluid and Cat) in only three nights. The reason behind that is that Rysto’s secret night power was an extra investigation, and he miraculously chose to use it before he was killed. My extra power isn’t terribly useful, while the third Witch’s power is. that’s why I’m coming forward.
So far, we know there’s a Necromancer, a Vampire, three Wolves, and an unknown number of Cabalists (one gone… perhaps two to go?)
What we don’t have is a heck of a lot of Townies left. While the scum remain divided, the town still has enough to lynch them, but we need to make sure we don’t mislynch again. The fact that we have a 50/50 shot of removing one of the nightkilling roles tonight (50/50 on CatinaSuit being the Vamp instead of being the Necro) means that I don’t have much of a choice on coming out right now.
I’m sure this is fairly jumbled, but I believe it has all of the relevant information real Townies need in order for us to move forward; we lynch Cat today, and the Vig (if there is one) can hit MHaye tonight, and hopefully Hockey will be able to discover another wolf tonight if they strike.
Unvote: MHaye
Vote: CatinaSuit
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Even though it is 50/50 I think the Undead is a better lynch toDay. It gives the (hopefully we have one) Vigilante a 100% target toNight, and we still get a Scum toDay, and a chance at fewer overnight kills.
Thank you Diomedes, I think you made the right call.
Thank goodness.
Yesterday, I was debating with myself as to whether or not I would request the Detective roleclaim if he (she apparently) had info on a living Werewolf. I was worried about knocking the Town into a stupid discussion about it, so I was hesitant. Yay Hockey Monkey. Well, Yay if MHaye turns up Wolf.
Whoops! I didn’t even think about needing to give the Detective information. My Bad. But I think MHaye would have carried out the kills for the Wolves anyway. Sorry though.
I see benefits to both sides. If we lynch MHaye Today, then a different Wolf will have to carry out Tonight’s kill. That would enable Hockey Monkey to investigate Tomorrow (if she lives through the night). This plan requires Hockey Monkey to survive Two nights, but if we wait until Night to Vig MHaye, Hockey Monkey would need to survive Three Nights to return additional information. Perhaps it is not that important either way.
Oh thank goodness. I was really scratching my head about the fluiddruid thing. I was surprised when fluiddruid came up Wolf, then I was really concerned that You, Blaster Master, or Santos Rugger were going to end up a dead Detective this Morning. Whew!
For what it’s worth I can confirm Diomedes as a Witch because he is correct in identifying Rysto as a Witch.
Sach, should I investigate one of last night’s deaths? If you don’t think it will give too much away, it would be helpful to know the alignments of **Kat ** and nesta.
For the duration of this post, I am going to assume that those who have claimed are telling the truth. That may or may not in fact be true, but I’m trying to work out the implications if it is. Here are the remaining players alive:
Idle Thoughts – claimed WitchDoctor
Diomedes – claimed Witch
Hockey Monkey – claimed Detective
CatInASuit – investigated as undead
HazelNutCoffee
DiggitCamara
Blaster Master – investigated as Town
Santos Rugger
dotchan
Zoggie
MHaye – investigated as Wolf
sachertorte – claimed Coroner, mostly confirmed
ShadowFacts – investigated as Town
So, that leaves as unknowns:
03. Kat - Killed Night Three
12. nesta - Killed Night Three
06. HazelNutCoffee
08. DiggitCamara
15. Santos Rugger
17. dotchan
18. Zoggie
And within that group of unknowns, we supposedly have:
2 more wolves
1 Vampire OR Necromancer (whichever one CIAS is not)
Probably at least 1 more Cabalist (it’s possible but extremely unlikely that there was only 1)
I think it’s definitely time for **sachertorte **to reveal the sides of Kat and nesta, which will significantly help us narrow the options.
I think it’s fairly safe to assume Kat and nesta were both town. sachertorte has already shown his willingness to reveal the deaths of Cabal and Werewolves, and we know neither of them was Undead. There were only two kills, so it couldn’t have been the Vig nightkilling the Vampire (who can’t be nightkilled any other way) and we had a new zombie this morning, so it couldn’t have been the Necromancer (when he dies, the zombies all crumble). There is the very remote possibility, perhaps, that the Vig killed the Vamp and both the Vamp and Wolves picked the same target (or that some weird combination took place involving the Cabal’s block), but that seems so unlikely as to be ruled out.
Well, this sounds pretty much like a confession to me. So, I’ll be ending this post with a vote.
Of course, this comment could be some reference to a potential secret power, as seems to be the way of things around here… regardless, considering he’s scum, any information he’d give us (including any allusions to a potential secret power) will be intended to deceive us, so I’d advise against such actions.
As has already been stated, if he’s undead, and I have no reason to doubt that at this point, he carries the possibility of being the vampire, which would potentially reduce the death count each Night, whereas the killing MHaye, assuming Hockey is telling the truth, has a zero chance of reducing the Night kills.
I think our best bet is a lynch of Cat; however, that doesn’t mean we can’t still take the extra time Today to organize our thoughts and investigate others especially since, to my knowledge, there is no structure in place for ending a Day early.
I think I’ll probably just take the weekend off from the game, then…
