[QUOTE=DiggitCamara]
And this is the reason why one shouldn’t post while
Yeah, this explains my post lag…that and the results of said drunkenness.
[QUOTE=Diomedes]
You got it, Zoggie. Who’re you voting for?
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Based on what Hockey Monkey has said, I’m going with CatInASuit.
Vote CatInASuit
I apologize to everyone in advance for continuing this nonsense with Idle, but I just can’t let him get away with it.
[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts]
Sorry, I wouldn’t call that a summary. I’d call that a twisted summary. But that’s no surprise coming from someone I find suspicious myself.
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Twisted, eh? Let’s break it down, shall we (color coded for convenience):
[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts, as a question to Pleo]
What I mean on this one though (for two) is, is there a time limit on speaking or resurrecting?
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[QUOTE=me, summarizing the above]
Idle: Do I have the ability to do A and B?
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[QUOTE=Pleonast (supposedly), responding to Idle]
There is no time limit on how long dead the speak-target has been.
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[QUOTE=me, summarizing the above]
Pleo: You have the ability to do A.
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[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts]
But as you can see, I planly ask in the second one “Resurrection” too, even going as far as to say “because I think it’d be cool to bring back long dead roles”. And since he didn’t say otherwise, I assumed the no-time limit accounts for all.
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[QUOTE=me, summarizing the above]
Idle: Oh good, I have the ability to do A and B!
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Feel free to point out the twisting. Be specific.
[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts]
If you really want to split hairs, a more apt summary would be:
Person A: Can I do this and this and this and this?
Person B: You can do the first. As for the rest, I’m not saying no…
..with the second part of Person B’s sentence not actually said but implied since it was VERY OBVIOUS and PLAINLY STATED that Person A asked the question. Since the question appeared to be ignored or not said otherwise, again, I do not see how impossible it is to assume “well, I wasn’t corrected, so it must apply too”.
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…Except that the Rules as posted and PM’ed to you VERY OBVIOUSLY and PLAINLY STATE otherwise. Keep digging, Idle, it’s very entertaining.
[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts]
I think you just looking for a reason to lynch me in the Day.
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Wrong again.
[QUOTE=Me, earlier toDay]
And I’m not going to vote for you now because we’ve got bigger and better fish to fry.
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[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts]
Because I have already cleared it up with him early yesterday and I was wrong in that assumption (as Dio and Hockey pointed out way before you).
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It’s good to see you finally clearly admit that you were wrong. I assume when you say you “cleared it up early yesterday” you mean your post 1204 at 7pm, where you grudgingly admit that “in a way” it was a mistake, but one that was “not wholely” your fault.
And btw, **Diomedes **only beat me to it by 16 minutes, not “way before” me, and **Hockey **was after me. So you were wrong about that, too.
Back on more important matters, I’m in agreement with the CIAS plan.
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Vote CatInASuit
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Hey, Cat… you want to join in on this one, just to make it unanimous?
[QUOTE=Diomedes]
Hey, Cat… you want to join in on this one, just to make it unanimous?
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Somehow that feels like it would be all kinds of wrong. :eek:
Wow. I was planning on catching up tonight but a lot more has happened today than I expected. :eek:
I know that my lack of role-claiming is … questionable, to say the least … plus the fact that nesta is dead doesn’t help me much, since he was the one who was most suspicious of me. The thing is that my role is not one that is automatically verifiable (i.e., a role that scum would claim if backed into a corner) so I don’t think it’s going to do me much good at the moment. I’ve been trying to find a way to have it so you guys could test it … hopefully I’ll have more to say on this by tomorrow. Or at least before the Day ends.
As for CatInASuit, I don’t know if his glee is a front or if there is possibly some hidden Undead power that is triggered upon death. Although since there’s no way of knowing anyway, I suppose there’s not much else we can do other than lynch him and hope for the best.
I’ve been pondering what to add over the weekend considering the Lynch wagon against me.
In the end, I just decided to roleclaim. It’s easier this way
I am the Necromancer.
The good news for the scum is not only my daily night ability to raise zombies, but the fact that upon lynch I can CURSE (ie. kill ) one target of my choice. Yup, even the undead gets special abilities as well. The person gets nominated as a Day action in the event of my untimely lynching.
Pleonast truly is a Bastard Mod[sup]TM[/sup] 
So as I get lynched at the end of the day, I am taking **Diomedes ** down with me. That gives us one remaining Vanilla witch and the Wolves get a free shot at Hockey Monkey. I would prefer Diomedes not outing the other witch, because it provides the scum with a free hiding place.
I suggest the Cabal start blocking Idle Thoughts to prevent him finding out the name of the third witch, that is assuming they are not all dead.
And given the number of known townies, there are plenty of targets for the scum to aim at without taking out their fellows. Blaster Master, Shadowfacts: sleep lightly
In terms of players my guess is, if HM is not lying, we would have 5 wolves, 3 Cabal, 2 Undead. This leaves 12 townies to carve up.
3 Witches, 3 Freemasons, I Detective, 1 Coroner, 1 Vicar, 1 Witch Doctor, 1 Seer and 1 Vigilante. No Warlocks, Scotsman or Magician.
So don’t forget to use your recruits though fellow scum. I would suggest a mass recruit, not tonight but tomorrow night. The town goes down two players and the scum go up 2 players the following night. A nice swing of balance if ever there was one. Not only will they have to waste a day lynching one of them, if you can hit the Vigilante, the other will not be night killed. I suggest not hitting Idle Thoughts, lets be obvious and force the town to choose, and so waste a Day.
Why am I doing this. Remember scum, another scum team winning is bad, the town winning is worse. The town gets to plan out in the open while we are stuck not knowing who the other is. So I thought I would plan in the open and throw out ideas for the scum give some grounding to the next attacks on the town. Feel free to follow them or not.
And So, in honour of not voting for a fellow scum member.
Vote No Lynch
As for why I am happy, Blaster Master, timing is everything 
[QUOTE=ShadowFacts]
Feel free to point out the twisting. Be specific.
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How about the fact that you cut out most of the PM? You seem to forget about this part of it:
Note how I clearly ask about resurrection..not once, not twice, but three times AND give an example of how I’d like to use it.
If that isn’t stated plain enough, I don’t know what is.
So I could only assume he read it and yet he wasn’t correcting me either way. So I just assumed it was the implied “Well, I’m not saying no…”
But for some reason this is hard for you to wrap your mind around even though it’s extremely possible, plausible, reasonable, and even likely.
I’m not digging anything. I VERY OBVIOUSLY and PLAINLY had a question about it as you can see and VERY OBVIOUSLY and PLAINLY stated those questions and what seems to not be VERY OBVIOUS or PLAIN to you is that someone couldn’t possibly be confused or assume things when questions he’s asked are unanswered.
Me, I think it’s VERY OBVIOUS AND PLAIN to you but you want to cast enough suspicion on me so that you can try for a lynch of me in the Day, which is the only truly safe bet scum have for killing off the Witchdoctor.
I dunno, what would you call all of this then? You said “Now” in that quote. What, so that means later you plan on it? I bet you will too. :rolleyes: And I bet at the end when it’s said “Idle was the Witchdoctor” you’ll be all like “ooohhh ohhh I didn’t know! He seemed so scummy to meeee”. 
Pardon me, but that post you made asking Pleonast the question, in green was today. Earlier today, in fact. I’d call that considerably a long time after I already knew what the clarification was.
On second thoughts, I would suggest the vampire take out Hockey Monkey tonight (hey, she’s not going to have any protection) and that the wolves use someone else to take out either **Blaster Master ** or ShadowFacts.
If MHaye survives the night, you know that there is no Vigilanate in place. Yes he will be lynched tomorrow, but the town wastes a Day doing it and then has to start looking again. But it proves whether the town has a night killer or not.
Oh…by the way, I forgot to mention somethng that I also received clarification on yesterday at the same time I asked for final clarification on the resurrectiong issue, CatInASuit. 
Earlier I said that if I try to talk with someone and am blocked, it fails, however I wasn’t totally sure if this was a power or not so I asked about it in the same PM.
I was pretty enlightened…namely for the fact that I learned:
It seems that blocking by Cabal will NOT block my one time talking power.
So good luck on any living Cabalists being able to take your advice there.
[QUOTE=CatInASuit]
Why am I doing this. Remember scum, another scum team winning is bad, the town winning is worse. The town gets to plan out in the open while we are stuck not knowing who the other is. So I thought I would plan in the open and throw out ideas for the scum give some grounding to the next attacks on the town. Feel free to follow them or not.
And So, in honour of not voting for a fellow scum member.
Vote No Lynch
As for why I am happy, Blaster Master, timing is everything 
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Now that’s not very fair. You’re scum, you’re supposed to go quietly and apologetically, not kill poor lil’ ole’ Diomedes!
While I’m here though…
Unvote CatInASuit
Vote MHaye
…if only to allow Town to have two Witches for at least one more Night.
[QUOTE=Diomedes]
Now that’s not very fair. You’re scum, you’re supposed to go quietly and apologetically, not kill poor lil’ ole’ Diomedes!
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[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts]
While I’m here though…
Unvote CatInASuit
Vote MHaye
..if only to allow Town to have two Witches for at least one more Night.
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Excellent point, Idle. Even if I get killed tonight, Witch #3 can at least reveal an extra investigation.
Unvote CatInASuit
Vote MHaye
What can I say, I’m a coward at heart. I don’t like the idea of being killed by a creepy curse. Please feel free to tear me to shreds tonight, though, wolves. You guys are my least unfavorite scum group.
Just thought of another thing (although it’s not going to make me change my vote back to CIAS, at least, not yet). CIAS, if she were the Vampire, would so obviously claim Necromancer anyway (something the real Necromancer wouldn’t mind at all). Not only would it keep he…
I’ve been doing it again, haven’t I?
Yes, yes, I know that I still have time to edit it since I have not yet submitted it.
No, no, I do not want to. I want you all to see how BAD THIS IS. My mind SIMPLY WILL NOT see or think of CIAS as a male. : / No matter how many times I tell myself he’s a male, my brain just won’t think of him as one. It keeps seeing and thinking of a female…every. time.
As you see above, been using the wrong pronouns again. :smack:
Anyway, back to what I was saying. Not only would it keep him still in the game to be able to kill at Night, but would make people scared to vote for him in the Day. So really, the Vamp becomes immune, of sorts.
[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts]
Yes, yes, I know that I still have time to edit it since I have not yet submitted it.
No, no, I do not want to. I want you all to see how BAD THIS IS. My mind SIMPLY WILL NOT see or think of CIAS as a male. : / No matter how many times I tell myself he’s a male, my brain just won’t think of him as one. It keeps seeing and thinking of a female…every. time.
As you see above, been using the wrong pronouns again. :smack:
Anyway, back to what I was saying. Not only would it keep him still in the game to be able to kill at Night, but would make people scared to vote for him in the Day. So really, the Vamp becomes immune, of sorts.
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Just start associating him with his avatar on the Firefly board. You don’t think of the Cheshire Cat as female, do you?
Oh, and if we do have a Vig left alive, they can take down Cat tonight, whether he’s Vampire, Necromancer or Third-Level Werewolf/Chihuahua crossbreed.
Actually, Cat… claiming was quite foolish if you’re telling the truth.
If you really are the necromancer, then you’re no immediate threat to the town or even the scum factions. In fact, you’d only be a threat when the zombies count starts to pile up. Thus, leaving you alive for a Day or Two cause zero harm and possibly forces the wolves to consider taking you out instead, since they have just as much to lose as the rest of us do.
Further, if you’re taken out by the Vigilante, then it’s all for moot anyway. At this point, I was actually leaning toward switch my vote to MHaye because… I have a far bolder plan that, if I’ve got it figured out in my head, will get us two more scum Tomorrow.
I will digest it a little bit farther and, if I cannot find any holes, I’ll post it tomorrow.
And on a side note… how is town winning worse than another scum faction winning? This same sort of thought process was happening in M3 and MV as well, and I just don’t get it. If you lose, you lose.
Oops… forgot to change my vote
Unvote CatInTheHat
Vote MHaye
[QUOTE=Blaster Master]
And on a side note… how is town winning worse than another scum faction winning? This same sort of thought process was happening in M3 and MV as well, and I just don’t get it. If you lose, you lose.
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Does the acronym ABM mean anything to you?
[QUOTE=CatInASuit]
Does the acronym ABM mean anything to you?
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Anti-Ballistic Missile? Artificial Baby Milk? Astroturf Barbarian Mothra?