Check Blaster Master’s end-of-day posts, which contain such a list.
I don’t have a lot of time this week, and I know this Day is shorter, so chances are I am going to vote on my gut. My gut is telling me one of these people:
Kyrie (mostly for CJ on day 1)
Pygmy Rugger (not an OMGUS, but because he has posted little, Nava posted little and the person Nava subbed for did little, which leads me to believe there is SOMETHING about that individual role)
Malacandra (for Hal Briston’s potential scum crumb)
I am going to vote for:
dunk Pygmy Rugger.
I apologise for not posting last night. I spent the entire day (up until around midnight) fighting a headache. I certainly wasn’t up to posting. My intention had been to update my player post analyses (DiggitCamara[sub]2[/sub] and Pleonast last night, but they were washed out.
I’ll try and get them done tonight. I just have to work round episode 3 of Heroes.
What do you want to hear from me?
Sorry that I’ve been rather silent this Day (Due to illnesses and vacations, I’ve had project suddenly dumped on me. Should be cleared out by Mondayish.) My primary suspicions are Malacandra, as usual, plus fluiddruid. Ideally, I’ll put together a concise case for each when I get a free hour or so. Just so I have a vote registered:
Vote fluiddruid
OK, I’ve been looking for a reason to pick between the following:
DiggitCamara, MHaye, Pygmy Rugger, fluiddruid,
for reasons which I’ve outlined before. Queuing’s point about continued silence from three players is enough to tip me over the edge:
vote Pygmy Rugger
Unofficial Day 6 vote count:
**Kyrie Eleison ** (2): DiggitCamara, Fluiddruid
**Pygmy Rugger ** (2): Queuing, amrussell
Fluiddruid (2): Zeriel, Pleonast
sachertorte (1): FlyingCowofDoom
**Malacandra ** (1): zuma
Anyone else want to vote while I’m on preview? Fine.
That comment got me to wondering if the claim was actually true. Were my hands actually cleaner than most others? Unusually so? So I did a bit of analysis regarding final votes for those who were alive through Day Five. I figure I might as well post it in case anyone else finds it useful.
scum town
Player blood blood overall
------ ----- ----- -------
16 Fretful Porpentine 1/1 3/4 4/5
5 Hockey Monkey 0/1 3/4 3/5
14 Pleonast 0/1 3/4 3/5
21 Queuing 0/1 3/4 3/5
30 Captain Klutz 0/1 3/4 3/5
2 USCDiver 0/1 2/4 2/5
8 sachertorte 0/1 2/4 2/5
26 HazelNutCoffee 0/1 2/4 2/5
27 MHaye 0/1 2/4 2/5
28 fluiddruid 0/1 2/4 2/5
3 Idle Thoughts 1/1 1/4 2/5
12 Kyrie Eleison 1/1 1/4 2/5
25 Autolycus/DiggitCamara [Ver. 2] 1/1 1/4 2/5
7 NAF1138 0/1 1/4 1/5
10 Malacandra 0/1 1/4 1/5
18 Pasta/amrussell 0/1 1/4 1/5
19 FlyingCowOfDoom 0/1 1/4 1/5
22 Zeriel 0/1 1/4 1/5
23 MonkeyMensch/zuma [Ver. 2] 0/1 1/4 1/5
17 Captain Carrot/nava/Pygmy Rugger 0/1 0/4 0/5
24 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 0/1 0/4 0/5
The answer to my question turns out to be that, overall, I have as much “blood on my hands”, as fluid so colorfully phrased it, as 76% of the sample, and as much innocent blood on my hands as 52% of the sample. The numbers would seem to suggest that, as a matter of fact, fluid’s suggestion is not true. Of course, the “definitely seems” portion allows her substantial wiggle room. It’s possible that my hands seem cleaner than they actually are for other reasons, such as unsupported suggestions like this one. :dubious:
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This is interesting. Both you and Queuing think that Pygmy isn’t participating, but he already is the leader in posting today. With 17 posts compared to Queuing’s 14 at the time I compiled my list(Queuing is currently the second highest poster toDay).
Now the question. Why is Pygmy either
a) not being noticed when he is posting so very much
or
b)being represented as not posting much, when he is in fact posting quite a lot?
Queuings posts is flat out inaccurate, but could be excusable if Pygmy really hadn’t hit on his radar…but amrussel seems to be piggybacking on Queuings logic.
And you would expect that am would be paying particualr attention to Pygmy’s posts since Pygmy was already on am’s suspicion list.
Interesting…
I can help out on the vote count:
Unvote in italics
Kyrie Eleison - 2 - DiggitCamara (2401), fluiddruid (2403), pygmyrugger (2415)(2431)
**fluiddruid ** - 1- zeriel (2444)
**sachertorte ** - 1 - FCOD (2468)
**Malacandra ** - 1 - zuma (2494)
Queuing, amrussell, did you guys not read page 49?
Not edited to add new votes :
Unvote in italics
Kyrie Eleison - 2 - DiggitCamara (2401), fluiddruid (2403), pygmyrugger (2415)(2431)
**fluiddruid ** - 2 - zeriel (2444), pleonast (2504)
**sachertorte ** - 1 - FCOD (2468)
**Malacandra ** - 1 - zuma (2494)
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Pygmy Rugger - 2 - Queuing (2502), amrussell (2509)
I’m pretty sure Queuing’s vote is an OMGUS. amrussell, what’s your excuse?
I’m confused. How is Queuing’s vote an OMGUS? Did you vote for him? Are you thinking about the discussion regarding sachertorte – fallout over that?
Yes. He even mentions in his vote it’s not an OMGUS. It simply doesn’t make sense, I’ve been participating more than anybody else ToDay. I can’t help that my previous selfs, if you will, didn’t post much, but that’s why they subbed out.
I was intending to spend some of the time left in Day 6 updating my set of players for whom I’ve been keeping postcount records. Then lost Tuesday to a headache, so I thought I’d just do a reread and play catchup Overnight.
However, reading up on the day, DiggitCamara[sub]2[/sub] started pinging. It’s just an impression, but since he is one of those players, who I’ve covered up to nightfall on Day 4, I’m going to investigate the posts he made since.
I covered up to the end of Day 4 in post [post=8812213]2139[/post]. Diggit made no posts on Night 4.
Day 5 : 11 posts.
[post=8814706]2180[/post] : Replies to my point in 2139 that the discussion of the Night 1 possibilities did continue after his contribution. Votes Zeriel.
[post=8814935]2182[/post] : Debates with Zeriel.
[post=8815423]2185[/post] : More and more ([post=8815440]2186[/post]) debate with Zeriel.
[post=8819474]2273[/post] : Response to Zeriel’s roleclaim by unvoting and switching his aim to “the last of the Crusader-outers.”
[post=8819539]2277[/post] : Discusses his previous experience as a Monk.
[post=8819908]2283[/post] : Explains to Sachertorte why he thinks other Monks should not claim until only two remain. Continues this in [post=8820550]2296[/post].
[post=8823789]2341[/post] : Fluffy post.
[post=8824686]2352[/post] : A comment to zuma[sub]2[/sub] on suspicious behaviour by Malacandra (at least going by zuma[sub]2[/sub]'s post). [post=8824857]2357[/post] : Acknowledges it’s a misunderstanding.
No posts in Night Five.
On to Day 6 : 9 posts to date.
[post=8831092]2399[/post] : Speculations on why HazelNutCoffee died.
[post=8831102]2401[/post] : Votes Kyrie on the basis that he was exhibiting “perfect information.” Responds to amrussell and expands on his reasoning in post [post=8831174]2405[/post].
[post=8831320]2411[/post] : More on the justification of his vote.
[post=8831415]2417[/post] : Asks Pygmy Rugger how looking at Hal’s posts
[post=8831459]2420[/post] : Explains how he derived his reasoning for his vote from Storyteller0910’s post-M2 game discussions.
[post=8831705]2430[/post] : Response to Sachertorte who points out other accusations of perfect knowledge.
[post=8832186]2445[/post] : Continues defence of his vote in the face of challenges from Kyrie.
[post=8836749]2490[/post] : In a response to IT states he failed to respond to a challenge re an error by amrussell because he had overlooked it.
[post=8836832]2493[/post] : Reminds IT of a previous instance of this sort of thing.
As far as 2180 is concerned, the response was off the point, and inaccurate to boot. Post [post=8739880]1012[/post] mentions only Hockey Monkey and Idle Thoughts; it says nothing about Zeriel at all. Why drag him in? Remember that DC’s contention was that the discussion died as soon as he posted. He never mentioned Zeriel in that post.
On the other hand, his discussion with Sachertorte drawing on his experience playing a mason-type role was fairly helpful.
I’m still uncertain about Diggit’s alignment, but looking at 1012 just now does not incline me towards thinking him Town-aligned.
Sorry to have to drag out the whole Crusader thing again, but how was it “off the point”? And how was it inaccurate?
The Crusader in post 1012, like you say, doesn’t mention **Zeriel **but he doesn’t mention Kyrie either. However, both of them had commented on the Crusader : Zeriel in post 990 and Kyrie in post 1000 which is why I, Diggitv2, used them in my theory that one of those four had brought up the theme to “fish for the Crusader”.
In post #1986, DiggitCamara[sub]2[/sub] defines his list of “Crusader-outers”.
In post #2180, Diggit once again confirms that the list is composed of myself, Idle, and Zeriel. This is the only post by Diggit between 1986 and 2273 in which Diggit mentions Idle Thoughts:
And in post #2273, Diggit says:
DiggitCamara[sub]2[/sub], how did you satisfy your suspicions regarding Idle Thoughts?
I pointed out that the discussion you said had ended with 1012 had in fact continued. Your reply?
“Notice that I didn’t say all three (Kyrie, Idle and Zeriel) are Cultists.”
That’s got nothing to do with the point I actually raised; namely that the discussion continued. You were the one who decided to end it after the two people you addressed answered you.
I interpreted that first sentence as tying all three back to post 1012. Since you omitted mentioning Zeriel in 1012 then 2180 looks odd. That’s all.
I never said it was a very strong reed - it’s not. It just continues to make me twinge every time we discuss it. I want to get it out of my mind - but I don’t seem to be able to.
Regarding my previous post, I sometimes get in trouble when I try to be too coy. Let me put forward what I think might have happened. DiggitCamara[sub]2[/sub] never really “suspected” Idle, because he knows they’re on the same side. Zeriel and I were the ones he really wanted to cast suspicion on, and now he’s conveniently forgetting him, either in an attempt to avoid having to go after him next should I claim or be dunked, or because he confused his nominal targets with his actual ones.
So I’ll direct a sizable FOS toward Idle Thoughts, and Vote DiggitCamara[sub]2[/sub].
Actually, since most other players don’t think it has much validity, I have demoted the theory to “pet project” on the side, meaning I have been watching the people on that list a bit more than others but haven’t actively been promoting it.
Idle Thoughts hasn’t actively re-pinged my scumdar and thus is on my “secondary list”. You, however, are another story…
I am sure you will think what you want, in fact I expect it. My posts and Pygmy;s have been mostly our fight. Neither one of us has posted much toDay. His role has not posted much this game. I am not basing this on just toDay. I even said as much.