marriage advice?

i’m tired, need someone to tell my situation to, and maybe get some advice.
Been married a little over a year, single income… ME. MY wife does nothing around the house, barely does laundry, never cooks, but swore before we got married that once we got our house we are currently living in, that she’d do all those things if she didn’t have to work. She sleeps until 4 every afternoon (when i leave for work) and usually goes to sleep when i do at 2-3am. We have sexual problems, she flat out refuses to try get up with me in the morning when i’m usually in the mood and not dead tired, and will not talk to anyone or find some kind of counsel to help us solve our problems. hell, i’d just be happy with a home cooked meal every once in a while that i didn’t cook myself or to not be laundering my pants that have been on the floor for the last week so i could have a clean pair for work.

is there anyone whose been in a similar situation and maybe knows how i can get her to talk to someone, or can point me in the direction of how to handle this? I’d honestly like for things to get better but really don’t expect them too.

I’ll be the first to say it.

Your wife sounds like she might be clinically depressed.

I agree. It is not normal for a healthy adult to do NOTHING. Sleeping all day is definitely a sign of depression by itself, and the desire to not work, not keep house, not do anything at all seems like a sure sign, as well.

I’m sorry to trot out this tired dog, but you can’t change people who don’t want to change.

What you CAN do is seek help for yourself – although your wife is against counseling, perhaps you could get counseling to learn how to cope better with her. Once you’re involved, you may find her more willing to participate with you.

You may also look at alternatives to the things that bother you most. If it’s the housework left undone, could you hire a housecleaner to come over, maybe once or twice a month? Sometimes the financial sacrifices can make things easier emotionally.

If it’s the cooking, could you look at getting more prepared meals? Or going together to one of those businesses like Let’s Dish, where you assemble and then freeze meals for later? They’re actually a lot of fun to go to, and would have the added bonus feeding you later (I’ve done the math and they’re surprisingly cost-effective).

There is a poster here who recently posted a series of threads about his wife and how she stayed home while he worked and she did not do housework and the house was filthy, and all the while she was out spending all his money, etc. I think they ended up filing for divorce.

If anyone remembers this, could you post a link? The OP might find some valuable advice in those threads.

A direct question for the OP: why does she not want to work? Why did she make a deal with you that she would do housework in exchange for not having to work? What did she do for a living before you got married? Is she just lazy or spoiled or has no education or job skills?

Didn’t you find it strange or disconcerting that she didn’t want to work and just wanted a free ride off of you? But you went ahead with the marriage anyway?

Also, I do agree that she is probably clinically depressed.

Yeah…talk to a divorce attorney. You don’t need someone in your life who doesn’t work, doesn’t help with the chores and doesn’t have sex with you.

That’s Belrix. He did get some good advice, but it has ended unhappily.

Thank God, cause the last thing you need is a kid (I’m assuming none are involved).

If she won’t go to counseling, you need to go by yourself. If she won’t help herself, you can’t do it for you - you can only control yourself.

The poster was Belrix, in these three threads.

Have you discussed finding some time of day that works for both of you? Not everybody is a morning person- I’m always pretty grumpy and very much not in the mood when I wake up in the morning. Before I got treatment for my depression, it was even worse.

Have you said this specifically to her, or do you just complain about how she never does anything in general? She may just not have any idea where to begin.

Belrix’s threads:

Dealing with compulsive spending

The beginning of the end of my marriage

Have you pulled your marriage back from the brink?

Some quotes:

That doesn’t sound normal. Did she work before you married? Does she have any substance abuse problems like drugs/alcohol? Could she be depressed?
No one could be that tired if they’re healthy.

If she’s only managing to stay awake for 10 hours a day (4pm to 2am) then chances are better than average something is physically wrong with her. Could be clinical depression, could be mono, could be a lot of things - only her doctor can say for certain!

Was she like this when you met? Is this new behavior?

If she was living like this when you met her and agreed to marry her, (and I’m really, really not trying to be offensive here) what made you think marriage would change her behavior habits?

Oy. This is quite the pickle and I feel bad for you.

Well the old Ann Landers line still holds true, you have to ask yourself would you be genuinely happier with this person in your life or out of it.

You have to weigh the negatives against the positives that she brings to the relationship and act upon whichever side the balance tips toward.

As others have pointed out, it is damn near impossible to change someone who doesn’t wish to change. One other thought to chew on is where do you see the two of you five / ten years down the road?

Hang in there.

Married only a year. She doesn’t work, doesn’t do shit around the house and doesn’t want sex? She refuses to do anything about the situation including therapy.

Punt.

Just wait until you get hit with the alimony and pay her for the rest of her life for sitting around, doing nothing while you work your butt off and pay all the bills. Touchy subject with me.

The responses I’ve read are (mostly) so depressing. Give up? Geez! You love her, right? Then, be a man. I mean that in the most respectful way possible, but it sounds to me like you’re wimping out.

I’ve been married for 11 years now. The first year was horrible, and we had some big fights. But, we worked it out because neither of us saw divorce as an option. Now, we’re are very happy together, and I love my wife more than ever.

If she won’t live up to what she promised about keeping up the house, tell her she needs to get a job. I don’t see why you can’t insist upon her living up to what she promised. Put your foot down. Yeah, it might end up in a big fight (not physical, of course), but sometimes, that’s the way you work things out. Don’t be afraid to confront her on these things.

Get thee to a therapist. Even if she refuses to go, it sounds like you would benefit from counseling. Many companies and health insurance plans offer mental health services for free or for a small copayment.

You may find that she becomes willing to get help for herself and make changes that will improve the quality of life for both of you. You may find that she won’t and that your life would be better without her. Either way I strongly encourage you to get professional help for yourself. As was mentioned above you can’t change other people, you can only change yourself.

Another voice chiming in that she sounds like she’s depressed.

My own backstory: Nearly two years ago, found out we couldn’t have children which was devestating to us both, but while I tried to make the best of the situation, Mr Cazzle opted instead to wallow in his own misery. He stopped talking to me (not in a hostile way, just simply failing to notice my existence) unless I was talking about going out somewhere without him, when he would beg and whine for me to stay with him. He would close the blinds of the house whenever I opened them. When visitors came, he’d spend 5 minutes with them and then disappear back to the computer room if he even came out at all, and on more than one occassion he sent people away without letting them in. He spent most of his time on the computer and a few times I resorted to IMing him because it was the only way I could get him to notice that I was talking to him. It was ugly, but I recognised that he was going through a major depressive episode and I was committed to being there for him, trying to get him to sort himself out. I spent the weekends trying everything to get him to leave the house, even for a walk around the block but he refused and just sat there. As a result of this and other things going on in my life, my own depression got out of control and I simply stopped doing anything. The house was a mess, I was a mess and I couldn’t get myself up and about to do anything to change it. Mr Cazzle would periodically complain about the mess, but as he made most of the mess and did nothing to help clean up or keep the place clean, I pretty much ignored his complaints.

So, as time went on, Mr Cazzle’s depression affected us both more and more severely - his lack of interaction with me made me more depressed, which resulted in less housework being done, which resulted in Mr Cazzle resenting me more. The problem was, in his mind I caused his depression by neglecting the house, but I remember it very differently and I still believe that his neglect of our relationship due to his depression over his inability to have children set the cycle in motion. I guess it’s a moot point.

Anyway, when he finally acknowledged that he had a problem I hustled him off to councelling but he didn’t actually try - after two sessions, he declared himself “cured!”. He did agree to try getting out and about more, and we spent a lovely weekend in the Dandenongs that seemed to restore some of his spirit, but the following weekend’s activity was to attend a party thrown by one of my friends, and at that party they got drunk and embarked on an affair which subsequently ended our marriage. Depression is too selfish to realise that a grubby little fling with my friend would bring him fleeting pleasure and me lasting misery, and I think he was beyond caring about anyone aside from himself at that point in time.

Since then - and despite his assertation that he bitterly regrets ending our marriage and that he would have liked to win me back - he’s a lot happier, and it’s because he’s doing all the things I kept urging him to do for all that time. He’s unable to cope being alone so he’s working his way through a series of girlfriends, and each time he meets someone new they go places, do things and have fun together. He’s meeting people, he’s getting out in the fresh air and seeing new things and (despite the weeping about regretting ending our marriage) he seems happier and healthier than he has in a long time. Recently he broke up with a girl he’d been seeing and he told me that he still felt fond of her because of all the fun they’d had, and recounted going to galleries together and dining out in Melbourne and visiting the gorgeous forest near our home and I protested “Those are all the fun things WE could have been doing for the last two years, but you wouldn’t leave the house for me!” and his face fell. It’s so frustrating to me that he simply wouldn’t listen to me, wouldn’t work on his problems and left me feeling powerless and frustrated because I couldn’t do it alone.

I’m doing better too. Despite the fact that I’m still on an emotional rollercoaster, the major cause of my depression is gone and as a result, I’m doing more. My house is tidy, I’m working, I’ve submitted an application to volunteer for the local fire department, I’m going out and meeting people on weekends (and no one makes me feel guilty for leaving the house!), I’m looking after my health and my appearance more and I’m enjoying life.

The point I’m trying to get around to is that depression is a cycle that needs to be broken. Sleeping all the time and living in a filthy house is enough to make anyone depressed. If you can find a way to break out of it, get the house clean, get out and see people and do things that you enjoy then suddenly the housework doesn’t seem so overwhelming to keep up with, you don’t need to sleep as much and life improves all round. The problem is that when you’re depressed, the idea of doing those things that you need to do to feel better is daunting, horrifying and unappealing. It’s not something anyone else can do for you, it’s something you need to do yourself and it’s very difficult to take the first steps that you need to take in order to change. Support from your loved ones is important - feeling attacked on top of being depressed does not help.

But there does come a point when you have to choose whether or not to stay and wait for your partner to pull themselves together, or to walk away for your own sanity. I should have walked… he wasn’t worth waiting for.

I hope that wasn’t too rambling and incoherant.

Oh my, cazzle! I’m so sorry you’ve had such a rough two years. I’m glad things are on the upturn and I hope your story helps pope_hentai.

First, insist she go to a physician. Go with her to the appointment and tell the doc that you think she might be depressed. There are other conditions that would also cause her to sleep so much and be tired so much and she needs a full physical workup. Her physician should also be able (having done the differential diagnosis) to determine if she is depressed.

At this point, whatever’s wrong with her is interfering with her judgement to the point that she’s unable to help herself. She may balk at counselling right now, but you should be able to get her to a doctor. Enlist her family if you need to.

And shame to every one who’s telling him to throw her under the bus without first finding out why she’s acting the way she is. She could be very ill and in need of help and he could end up with a happy and healthy wife after she’s treated.

Geeze.