Men in their 40's or above, how do you stay attracted to women your own age?

At this point I suspect he does.

I was going to post the same thing. I would bet my life he is at most average looking and more likely unattractive.

It’s less that we don’t “get it,” and more that, to quote the great American philosopher Shawn Carter, “We don’t believe you, you need more people.”

I really don’t think that most people engage in the practice of dehumanizing people that don’t satisfy their personal preferences. That’s what people are objecting to, and I don’t know whether you are being deliberate obtuse about this, or whether this is legitimately escaping your comprehension. @Shagnasty isn’t getting dragged because he has “high standards.” He’s getting dragged because he’s talking about women who don’t meet his standards as if he finds them less deserving of basic human dignity.

Maybe she didn’t want to settle for someone who must control all aspects of their time together, considers women to be commodities that you trade up or down, is in the situation only for what he gets out of it, believes that his money will excuse his bad manners, and thinks she should be flattered that she was chosen from the dating pool. I dated a guy like that once. For about a month. And then I took a look at my life and realized what I was missing. Fun and laughter.

Seriously, I’ve watched pages of this scroll by for days. The general ick factor is bad enough. The constant “you don’t understand; I am what I am” is nauseating. The condescending attitudes towards women who aren’t “smoking hot” is juvenile. But what really sticks out, what reminded me of that drip from 30 years ago is how soul-suckingly dull it all sounds. Like taking life and draining all the surprise and spontaneity out of it for the sake of someone whose looks and behavior are Stepford perfect at all time. I strongly suspect that you have to feel superior to most of the world around you so you require a complacent and beautiful woman to hold off the world’s judgement.

Sounds like a real barrel of laughs.

Anyone else suspect that this so-called mediocre woman didn’t become mediocre until she dipped out on the OP? Because that’s what looks like to me.

Maybe, but his popcorn bucket trick is gonna make him the toast of Delta House.

Yeah, flip flops at the MFA are not exactly crime against humanity material. I’m surprised that Shagnasty holds this institution in such high regard in spite of never having been there before (:smack:) after how many years in the area? High quality date indeed.

And if education is such a dealbreaker, it’s curious he didn’t suss out her degree status before investing in a date. It just seems like that didn’t become important until after he got the snub.

It could be worse. You could have scored a date with this guy.

[QUOTE=John Fitzgerald Page]
I think you forgot how this works. You hit on me, and therefore have to impress ME and pass MY criteria and standards - not vice versa. 6 pictures of just your head and your inability to answer a simple question lets me know one thing. You are not in shape. I am a trainer on the side, in fact, I am heading to the gym in 26 minutes!
So next time you meet a guy of my caliber, instead of trying to turn it around, just get to the gym! I will even give you one free training session, so you don’t blow it with the next 8.9 on Hot or Not, Ivy League grad, Mensa member, can bench/squat/leg press over 1200 lbs., has had lunch with the secretary of defense, has an MBA from the top school in the country, lives in a Buckhead high rise, drives a Beemer convertible, has been in 14 major motion pictures, was in Jezebel’s Best dressed, etc. Oh, that is right, there aren’t any more of those!

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Agreed. I’m out of this thread because I’ve been entertainment enough.

Yeah, he’s a real barrel of monkeys (filled w/ CO2, that is, and then observed).

Interesting and fascinating, no doubt, but why share that particular and seemingly random anecdote in this thread? Btw, that’s some serious google-fu.

No Googling required; the OP and I have both been posting here for over a decade and some things he’s posted are memorable. As I’ve already mentioned, I think his lack of empathy is an important part of his issues.

You may have a point but I don’t think it is exclusive to me. Friends, family and even counselors have been startled many times by my lack of empathy for some things but I don’t think I am a full-blown sociopath. I may be on the low side for some emotions but I love kids, pets and even the people I am really close to. I am very introverted and don’t have much use for people that waste my time even though my job is helping them.

People keep implying that I am trolling in this thread but that isn’t true. The original question was an honest one and every single anecdote and opinion of mine is real but style. I know that I expressed them in controversial way but I do the same thing in real life among people that I know closely. Some people think it is horrifying and others hysterical but I can’t change how I think. Some people hate me for it and others love me and it isn’t very predictable about which group an individual person will fall into.

The only thing I can do is adjust my behavior based on some of the suggestions here and I thank everyone that also gave me their own honest opinions. That is what it is all about. I am not out to hurt anybody but I am also not going to try to please every woman that passes an online dating screening if they don’t match up well with my own goals. Women have been manipulating men in this way since time began and are still trying to. Finally, there are screening tools that let men like me finally get on equal footing even if they don’t always work.

See, you’ll say some things and I’ll think “Aw, ok. Guy has some issues, but maybe he’s getting it.”

Then you’ll continue, and I’ll think “Nope. He’s not.”

What do you mean, ‘real but style’?

I would posit that people have been manipulating people in these (dating) ways since time began and are still trying to. Women are not your Moriarty and you are not their Sherlock Holmes.

That was a typo that I tried to correct but the edit timed out.

I am fully aware of your second point. I am going to try to do better, I promise you. This thread has given me lots of good insight and I realize that I was wrong on some of it (although I still think I have some valid points standing).

I have a really good date that is an extremely good match this coming weekend. I am going to try my hardest and, if I fail, that will all be on me and I will not be happy but I will make it. I will have to rethink things from there if I can’t pull that one off. She matches with basically everything so, if she doesn’t like me in person, I will have to work on my attitude and personality.

I am an unusual person by all accounts and that isn’t really a good thing. Real matches with anyone are extremely rare and have only happened a handful of times but, when they do, they are unusually strong.

Are you going to show us your picture? Put your money where your mouth is.

Emphasis mine:

I, for one, don’t think that you’re trolling. I just think that you don’t respect women.

Join Match.com, PM me with your user name and I will set you up. I get down to PA sometimes. We could even go out to dinner sometime (my treat). I always like the ones that hate for years until I can turn them to my side. It is like a discount romance novel or a bad movie in real life but I love to live out cliches.

It isn’t that hard to figure out what I look like. I am not some obscure person. My photos are all over the web already but we aren’t running a tutorial on Stalking 101 here.