MLB 2021 Playoffs

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It’s amazing what the Red Sox have accomplished, with the help of unheralded pickups like Whitlock and Hernandez.

I don’t think they have the shutdown pitching or defense to go much further, but it’s been fun to watch.

If they have to go to Robles or Barnes out of the bullpen in a tight spot, I’ll have picked a bad month to quit sniffing glue. :crazy_face:

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But at $194M the Red Sox have the 5th-highest payroll in all of baseball.

I got the entire list, and then added each team’s season record. It would be fun to calculate cost per victory…

2021 MLB Payrolls, and Season Records

  1. $267M LAD — Los Angeles Dodgers 106-56
  2. $203M NYY — New York Yankees 92-70
  3. $200M NYM — New York Mets 77-85
  4. $194M HOU — Houston Astros 95-67
  5. $185M BOS — Boston Red Sox 92-70
  6. $184M PHI — Philadelphia Phillies 82-80
  7. $180M LAA — Los Angeles Angels 77-85
  8. $178M SDP — San Diego Padres 79-84
  9. $169M STL — St. Louis Cardinals 90-72
  10. $164M SFG — San Francisco Giants 107-55
  11. $150M TOR — Toronto Blue Jays 91-71
  12. $147M ATL — Atlanta Braves 88-73
  13. $145M WSH — Washington Nationals 65-97
  14. $145M CHC — Chicago Cubs 71-91
  15. $141M CHW — Chicago White Sox 93-69
    — (league average) —
  16. $126M CIN — Cincinnati Reds 83-79
  17. $118M MIN — Minnesota Twins 73-89
  18. $114M COL — Colorado Rockies 74-87
  19. $97M MIL — Milwaukee Brewers 95-67
  20. $96M TEX — Texas Rangers 60-102
  21. $90M OAK — Oakland Athletics 86-76
  22. $89M ARI — Arizona Diamondbacks 52-110
  23. $87M KCR — Kansas City Royals 74-88
  24. $86M DET — Detroit Tigers 77-85
  25. $82M SEA — Seattle Mariners 90-72
  26. $71M TBR — Tampa Bay Rays 100-62
  27. $58M MIA — Miami Marlins 67-95
  28. $54M PIT — Pittsburgh Pirates 61-101
  29. $54M BAL — Baltimore Orioles 52-110
  30. $50M CLE — Cleveland Indians 80-82

Source: MLB 2021 Payroll Tracker | Spotrac

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Sure, here’s the result of my mediocre Excel skills:

Pay roll ($MUSD) Wins Team Cost per Win ($MUSD)
50 80 CLE 0.625
71 100 TBR 0.71
58 67 MIA 0.865671642
54 61 PIT 0.885245902
82 90 SEA 0.911111111
97 95 MIL 1.021052632
54 52 BAL 1.038461538
90 86 OAK 1.046511628
86 77 DET 1.116883117
87 74 KCR 1.175675676
141 93 CHW 1.516129032
126 83 CIN 1.518072289
164 107 SFG 1.53271028
114 74 COL 1.540540541
96 60 TEX 1.6
LEAGUE AVERAGE
118 73 MIN 1.616438356
150 91 TOR 1.648351648
147 88 ATL 1.670454545
89 52 ARI 1.711538462
169 90 STL 1.877777778
185 92 BOS 2.010869565
194 95 HOU 2.042105263
145 71 CHC 2.042253521
203 92 NYY 2.206521739
145 65 WSH 2.230769231
184 82 PHI 2.243902439
178 79 SDP 2.253164557
180 77 LAA 2.337662338
267 106 LAD 2.518867925
200 77 NYM 2.597402597

The Rays, as usual, are incredibly efficient at generating wins for their payroll

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Here you go, I used Excel & Word to make a table

# $ Team W L Million$/Win
1 $267 LAD — Los Angeles Dodgers 106 56 $2.52
2 $203 NYY — New York Yankees 92 70 $2.21
3 $200 NYM— New York Mets 77 85 $2.60
4 $194 HOU — Houston Astros 95 67 $2.04
5 $185 BOS — Boston Red Sox 92 70 $2.01
6 $184 PHI — Philadelphia Phillies 82 80 $2.24
7 $180 LAA — Los Angeles Angels 77 85 $2.34
8 $178 SDP — San Diego Padres 79 84 $2.25
9 $169 STL — St. Louis Cardinals 90 72 $1.88
10 $164 SFG — San Francisco Giants 107 55 $1.53
11 $150 TOR — Toronto Blue Jays 91 71 $1.65
12 $147 ATL — Atlanta Braves 88 73 $1.67
13 $145 WSH — Washington Nationals 65 97 $2.23
14 $145 CHC — Chicago Cubs 71 91 $2.04
15 $141 CHW — Chicago White Sox 93 69 $1.52
— (league average) —
16 $126 CIN — Cincinnati Reds 83 79 $1.52
17 $118 MIN — Minnesota Twins 73 89 $1.62
18 $114 COL — Colorado Rockies 74 87 $1.54
19 $97 MIL — Milwaukee Brewers 95 67 $1.02
20 $96 TEX — Texas Rangers 60 102 $1.60
21 $90 OAK — Oakland Athletics 86 76 $1.05
22 $89 ARI — Arizona Diamondbacks 52 110 $1.71
23 $87 KCR — Kansas City Royals 74 88 $1.18
24 $86 DET — Detroit Tigers 77 85 $1.12
25 $82 SEA — Seattle Mariners 90 72 $0.91
26 $71 TBR — Tampa Bay Rays 100 62 $0.71
27 $58 MIA — Miami Marlins 67 95 $0.87
28 $54 PIT — Pittsburgh Pirates 61 101 $0.89
29 $54 BAL — Baltimore Orioles 52 110 $1.04
30 $50 CLE — Cleveland Indians 80 82 $0.63
Here is the list from highest cost per win down
# $ Team W L Million$/Win
3 $200 NYM— New York Mets 77 85 $2.60
1 $267 LAD — Los Angeles Dodgers 106 56 $2.52
7 $180 LAA — Los Angeles Angels 77 85 $2.34
8 $178 SDP — San Diego Padres 79 84 $2.25
6 $184 PHI — Philadelphia Phillies 82 80 $2.24
13 $145 WSH — Washington Nationals 65 97 $2.23
2 $203 NYY — New York Yankees 92 70 $2.21
14 $145 CHC — Chicago Cubs 71 91 $2.04
4 $194 HOU — Houston Astros 95 67 $2.04
5 $185 BOS — Boston Red Sox 92 70 $2.01
9 $169 STL — St. Louis Cardinals 90 72 $1.88
22 $89 ARI — Arizona Diamondbacks 52 110 $1.71
12 $147 ATL — Atlanta Braves 88 73 $1.67
11 $150 TOR — Toronto Blue Jays 91 71 $1.65
17 $118 MIN — Minnesota Twins 73 89 $1.62
20 $96 TEX — Texas Rangers 60 102 $1.60
18 $114 COL — Colorado Rockies 74 87 $1.54
10 $164 SFG — San Francisco Giants 107 55 $1.53
16 $126 CIN — Cincinnati Reds 83 79 $1.52
15 $141 CHW — Chicago White Sox 93 69 $1.52
23 $87 KCR — Kansas City Royals 74 88 $1.18
24 $86 DET — Detroit Tigers 77 85 $1.12
21 $90 OAK — Oakland Athletics 86 76 $1.05
29 $54 BAL — Baltimore Orioles 52 110 $1.04
19 $97 MIL — Milwaukee Brewers 95 67 $1.02
25 $82 SEA — Seattle Mariners 90 72 $0.91
28 $54 PIT — Pittsburgh Pirates 61 101 $0.89
27 $58 MIA — Miami Marlins 67 95 $0.87
26 $71 TBR — Tampa Bay Rays 100 62 $0.71
30 $50 CLE — Cleveland Indians 80 82 $0.63
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Here we go White Sox, beginning do or die game 4. Don’t fuck this up.

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Actually, this list is sorted by total payroll, largest to smallest.

The list provided by @Great_Antibob is sorted by cost per win, lowest to highest.

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There’s a second list on What_Exit’s post sorted by cost per win sorted highest to lowest as well but hidden as so:

Summary

Sorted list

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Oops, so there is! My bad!

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Thanks for the calculations and lists. Good to see.

As for Giants @ Dodgers, it’s Walker Buehler going tonight on short rest, and if they win it’s Julio Urías going in game 5.

Buehler threw 99 pitches at Friday’s Dodgers loss.

Urías threw 72 pitches at Saturday’s Dodgers win.

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The Astros win their half of the ALDS, three games to one, after beating the White Sox 10-1 this afternoon.

The Sox seemed to stumble down the stretch this year (in part due to some untimely injuries), and their pitching staff, which had been very good earlier in the season, got hammered by the Astros in this series.

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And… the Astros advance.

I’m cheering for them because of Dusty Baker.
I’m cheering for the Red Sox too.
I’m cheering for the Giants most of all!!

It is way too early, but if the Red Sox and Giants advance to the end then my brother, a Sox fan, and I have agreed to go to two games, one in SF and one in Boston*.

The last World Series game I went to was with him in 2007, the Red Sox and the Rockies in Denver. Game 3.

* — man, that will be pricey!

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Famous last words:

“All we have to do is execute pitches and they can’t hit them anyways.”

-White Sox reliever Ryan Tepera, after Chicago’s game 3 win at home, suggesting that Astros hitters were ineffective on the road because they couldn’t engage in “sketchy stuff”.

Final today from Chi: Houston 10, Chicago 1.

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Did they forget the 2019 World Series where the Astros won 3 road games in the middle of their scandal?

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And… the Dodgers draw first blood.

ETA: can Walker Buehler come through and pitch well and go deep into the game?

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yay! go dodgers!

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I’m rooting for both the Sox and Giants, and I am DAMN jealous!

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The Braves knock the Brewers out, 3 games to 1. Milwaukee had largely gotten it done with pitching, rather than hitting, during the regular season, and their not-great hitting showed during the series – today’s game was the first in the series in which they had scored more than 2 runs, and the Braves had shut them out in games 2 and 3.

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Congratulations to the Dodgers. It’s down to one game on Thursday: win, or go home.

Logan Webb needs to bring it!

Go Giants!