Mom's "Apology" To Friends Without Kids

It certainly isn’t mine or any one elses fault that parents are hyper sensitive.

I’m not a parent, actually. But unlike a few people on this thread, I’m not threatened by people who are.

The only people who are threatened are those who have children and/or think there is nothing wrong with them running amok and requiring others to help pay to raise them. All you have to do is look at their reactions when someone says something “I can’t believe the people across the street are ignoring that little girl screaming in their pool”. Or “damn I’m tired of my property taxes going up and being wasted on our crappy schools”.

You do realize this is all on purpose, right? One of the great joys of being a parent is we get to sic our kids on people like you. We are all, truly, out to get you.

Well, for one thing, neither of those examples had anything to do with siccing anyone on anyone else. For another, you use of the term “people like you” just goes to show how - what was the phrase? - sanctimonious, smug, entitled, and completely self-congratulatory, wee bit neurotic and passive-aggressive you all are. Not to mention selfish. But yeah, you go ahead and pretend that you are higher beings and entitled to all you demand because you managed to reproduce.

I know you are, but what am I?

Point to Sven. And jump ball.

You gave him a point for acting like a child? Man, I will never understand parents.

Sven ain’t a him. Two minutes for high dicking.

A Master Debater. Surely such high level skills of debate could only come from the teachings of the great peoples of Cameroon.

whmtlft.

What are you? Hmm, I’mma go with “dumb enough to keep arguing with curlcoat.”

I was thinking about this recently actually. I’ve admitted on here before that I really don’t understand the strong desire to have children and especially don’t understand the part about feeling devastated if you’re unable to have them.

I had a bit of a revelation as to why (or at least I think it might be why) I just don’t get it. I think it’s because I can’t think of anything that I don’t have, but want and will be devastated without. So the entire concept is foreign to me. I had never thought about it that way, but it makes sense to me.

You have never longed to have, say, a romantic partner?

Relationships are great, I’ve been in one for 13 years. If it didn’t happen again after this, I’d be fine. If I had never had one at all I would’ve been fine. Maybe a little unhappy, but nothing approaching devastated.

Okay … it is just that this is a trifle unusual. I would have thought that longing for such a relationship was pretty-near universal, but I admit I could be wrong.

Don’t get me wrong, they’re wonderful to have. But I also know that I can be happy alone as well.

Well, sure. I suppose I would as well. But that isn’t really the issue.

I was thinking back to the time when, as a teen, I had never had a romantic partner. Boy oh boy, did I ever want one though, for a whole variety of reasons! Some maybe not so admirable, such as wanting social acceptance, and wanting the ego-gratification of knowing I was attractive, worrying I would be left out of having this experience other people were having, etc. Others, perhaps, more worthy.

Point, though, is that I thought nearly everyone went through this, which is why there is so much emphasis of romance in our culture (and in other cultures).

I freely admit that I’m unusual. :slight_smile: I think part of it was growing up gay in the 80’s, not knowing any other gay people, not even knowing they existed for a long time. I pretty much expected to never have a relationship until I was in my teens and realized it may be possible. At the same time, I’ve been in 3 (I don’t count anything under a year) but didn’t actively pursue any of them…it just sort of happened.

Maybe people overstate what they mean by ‘devastated’, but I’ve been trying to find a way to relate to even the concept and hadn’t come up with anything until I realized what I mentioned before. Are there things I want, even really really want? Absolutely. I know that I’m not great at empathy and there a lot of things people deal with that I just don’t understand…but I’m trying to learn!

I don’t know that what you’re describing sounds like “devastation” to me.