Villa wrote:
Again, put your money where your mouth is. Put up or shut up. Prove me wrong or shut the hell up. But we all know you’re just gonna babble on with insults instead, because you’re not man enough to debate me. You’re too lazy to even try to rebut a fact. All you can do it claim I’m wrong while evading the facts and in fact evading all attempts at debate. You’re an intellectual coward, though I am loathe to use the word “intellectual” in any reference to you.
Isn’t it a hoot when a venemous douchebag tries to pretend to have dignity?
Ah, I missed something there. Tomndebb wrote:
I see. So Robert Spencer, Joseph Farah, Brigitte Gabriel, Daniel Pipes, and the Religionofpeace website are all liars who are “making up shit” about Islam?
Fine, smart-ass. Give us the Straight Dope then. Show us precisely how these experts are wrong and how they are “making shit up” about Islam, the way you claim I am.
Come on, Mr. Bad Ass. Give us the Straight Dope. No more of your unfounded slurs and bullshit. Either face the facts and engage in debate like a man or admit your a ball-less pussy who lacks the ability to do so.
Here’s a psychic prediction…Tomndebb is gonna evade the issue once again, throwing out a token insult as a substitute for backing his false claims. I wish Debb were here instead of Tom. We know who wears that pants in that relationship. :rolleyes:
Elucidator wrote:
Who’s pretending to have dignity? All I’m doing is waiting to see if any of you wussies has the balls to face the facts instead of simply evading the issue and hiding behind smarmy attacks.
If I’m wrong, all you need to do is post a source proving me wrong. So far, I’ve disproven everything the few people who attempted to rebut me with have thrown out there (Ibn Warrad misquoting Spencer, for example).
I’ve seen your kind so often, and it always disgusts me. Smart-asses who talk the talk but refuse to even try to walk the walk because they know they’ll get their asses handed to them.
So what’s it gonna be, Elucidtor? Are you going to debate the facts or just post smarmy responses? Like we don’t all know the answer to that already! :rolleyes: LOL! 
Okay Magellan, Champion-of-Truth is more stupid and uninformed than you are. I’m sorry for thinking you were as low as anyone can get.
Lobohan wrote:
Another moron who can’t even attempt to back his claim by refuting facts! Man, this board is crawling with pathetic idiots! :smack:
Bwah-ha-ha-ha. Pathetic needledicked loser. If you actually offered anything that had even a passing resemblence to facts, there are plenty of people on this board who would be happy to debate you. Instead, you vomit nothing but your own bigoted bullshit.
Like I said already, blah blah blah blah. Keep on vomiting your ignorant ideas for all to see.
No. You did not. Lying about that does you no good when we can see the actual statement that you made:
Nothing in there about “religions.” Nothing in there about doing it for Christianity. It is a simple question that asked when was the last time a Christian committed a specific act.
Now, since you are going to pretend that you said things you never said, I will simply dismiss you for the faker you are.
What would you like me to refute? Specifically.
Also, aren’t you smart enough to learn how to use the quoting function?
Kolak babbles on:
Just like the rest of your kin, you fear the truth and you avoid honest debate like the plague. At least Lobohan is offering to attempt refuting a single point I made. He’s got more testicles than you I see. :dubious:
I have to be a man to debate you? I have no interest in debating you. I haven’t claimed you are wrong. I have deliberately chosen not to engage you on the validity of anything you have written, because I see vermin like you day in, day out, and they simply aren’t worth it.
I’m not attacking what you say - just commenting on how you say it. All your pathetic little gibes at others are alleging things completely mirrored in your own writings.
I’m mocking your process, not your substance, child. Your substance is absolutely nothing new. It is nothing I haven’t heard thousands of times before. But it just isn’t always accompanied by such an amusing set of ‘insults’ that lay your soul bare for all to see. You are so concerned with appearing manly by your anonymous postings on a message board. That says almost as much about you as your repetition of such complete drivel.
Champion-of-Truth, how can you not see the hypocrisy in your own words?
That is exactly the attitude of Muslim extremists.
You and the Muslim extremists are two sides of the same coin. You both want your religion spread throughout the world and you both want genocide.
I don’t, however, wish that you bomb each other because I care about innocent life, and I don’t want innocent people caught in the crossfire. You apparently have no qualms about it.
Remember that you are calling a group monsters for killing one of their own, but I somehow doubt you have any sympathy for the little girl they killed considering you lump her into that same monstrous group.
How are you any different from the evil people who condone what happened to that little girl. Don’t tell me you actually care that this single Muslim child died when you apparently have no problem nuking the whole lot of them.
I pity you.
We mostly don’t waste our time trying to refute facts. Seeing as how they are, well, facts.
Tomndebb wrote:
Boy, don’t play word games with me. We both know you’re being a smarmy little prick. Just admit it. As for your nonsense:
I am not lying about what I said. I explained to you the context in which it was written, and the entirety of my original post clearly spells it out. You’re just a little smarmy fuck who can only “win” in his own mind by playing word games.
The act in question, Joseph Stack flying a plane into the IRS building, was not an act of terrorism by definition.
The very act of posting that example (Joesph Stack) actually proves my point. I was pointing out how little terrorism is done by other religions compared to Islam. Even if we consider that an act of terror (which it was not) and even if we take what I said out of context (which you are), it fails to address the fact that virtually all terror is committed by Muslims.
It’s abundantly clear you’re just being a smarmy prick, because you won’t debate the issues.
And I dismiss you for being a smarmy prick who plays word games. Intellectually honest people understand context, they don’t extract literal words out of context in order to appear smart. You lose, loser. :rolleyes:
You get crabs, they die, right?
Lobohan wrote:
Anything at all. I’m so generous, I’ll give you freedom to choose whatever you want to attempt to refute. I’ve claimed that Islam promotes violence. I’ve said that Islam is a fake “religion” made up by a pedophile/murderer/rapist. I’ve shown that Islam commits more acts of terror than every other religion combined. I’ve posted that much of the ritual of Islam is derived from pre-Islamic pagan sources and Arabic folklore (jinn for example). Take your pick. Hell, with all the smarmy morons mouthing off in here, I’d appreciate any debate you can provide. I thought that’s what this board is about. Instead all I’ve seen is smarmy bullshit from assholes.
Refute anything I’ve said, or perhaps show us that Islam does not commit more terror than all other religions combined, as I claimed. Or show me one Islamic state where freedom, tolerance, and peace are the rule, since I have said there is no such state. You have much to choose from. Go for it!
Villa babbled on:
And as I’ve said, I’ve seen your type. Your type always hurls insults and claims that people are crazy, or liars, or uninformed, but never back those claims by jumping into the ring and proving it.
Calling me “vermin” does nothing other than prove you’re an obnoxious prick who can’t even back his claims. You simply imply that I’m wrong, as you did here:
The obvious unspoken claim being that I am unfair and unbalanced and not speaking the truth.
It’s ok to hide behind cowardice and throw insults at those people you’re afraid of engaging. Just don’t think that cranks up your testosterone score any. :rolleyes:
Those aren’t facts, those are interpretations of the meaning of facts.
For instance, the charge of baby fucking. It is a fact that there are passages of the Koran that could be interpreted to imply that. On the other hand, marriage as a ceremony to establish kinship rather than as a means to procreate is not at all uncommon. Royal families in Europe did it all the time as a treaty obligation, no one expects a couple of pre-pubescent kids to do the nasty.
As well, there is a long established tradition of the “celibate marriage”, going to the wine cellar for a glass of water. Your interpetation is that marriage means he fucked her. But it doesn’t necessarily. Your refusal to accept that possibility is telling. Your insistance on citing “experts” who agree with you can only mean either they also refuse to accept it as possible, or they do accept that possibility and you are willfully misinterpreting them.
Either way, you can’t possibly know that for a fact. Unless you were there. You weren’t there, right?
As for terrorism points, I bet the Irish Republican Army racked up a bunch of them. But you know the Irish, love to get bombed on a Saturday night. They were in the Catholic branch of Islam?
So does Judaism, so does Christianity. The problem isn’t Islam, the problem is living in a third-world shithole. For instance, Christians hang gays and kill witches today in third-world shitholes.
All religions are fake. And you can’t hold ancient peoples to modern sensibilities when it comes to whom they fuck. Pre-Islamic Bedouins married young girls too. So calling Mohammed a pedophile or rapist isn’t a sensible thing, since he was a product of his environment. Much like you probably like Nascar and WWE, you toothless yokel.
Can you show that you have controlled for poverty and 3rd world shitholeiness?
So what? Judaism stole the flood and angels. This is a particularly stupid comment on your side.
When a mental deficient like you struts around and brings little mayhem it hardly seems worth bothering to refute. But I had a minute, so I thought I’d throw you a fucking bone.
Done and done.