MSK: Coming out of the closet? (It's not what you think.)

Dear Dopers,

I feel that the time has come that I share something with you which has not been revealed until now. Many of you who have read my posts and replied to them, seem to be aware that something with me is amiss. Well, my friends, you are right. What I am about to share with you is not a joke, not a pity party, but simply a way for me to let you know me better. What you choose to do with this knowledge is beyond my control. I can only hope and pray that some of you will be understanding and have a desire to help see me through this.

Despite my often jovial and whimsical attitude in my posts, there is another side to the person that is MagicalSilverKey. Some of you have “read between the lines” and seen a glimpse of this side of me. A side that is not so happy, not so fun, not so lively. A side that is sad, lonely, and bitter. What is this “dark side” you may ask? Well, I shall tell you.

I have been coming to the board for a long time. Many of you have come to get an idea of who I am through my posts, but I haven’t revealed the whole picture of myself until now. The reason for my often despondent nature, is that I have a personality disorder. I was diagnosed with Avoidant Personality Disorder in the summer of 1995. Although I was diagnosed in '95, I have had this disorder the majority of my life. Looking in retrospect, I first started suffering it significantly and noticeably in high school, then early adulthood. I sought out counseling in '95 when I underwent a major case of depression and was literally on the verge of suicide. One day while I was at my job, I took my utility knife and placed the razor sharp blade against my left wrist, and began pressing as hard as I could. I wanted so badly for the skin to break and for the blood to come rushing out but it would not. Fortunately, I had the sense to realize that I had a serious problem and that I seriously needed help. I walked out of work in tears that day, and shortly thereafter, I went to get help. I spent one year in outpatient therapy and about 6 to 8 months on anti-depressant medication. I have come a very long way since then.

I continue to struggle with this disorder on a daily basis, to this moment, and I still have a long way to go. I am currently not undergoing therapy or on any medication. I am not suicidal. I have done a great deal of research into Avoidant Personality Disorder, over the last 6 months. By doing so, I have come to a far greater understanding of why I am the way I am, and of who I am. The past six months of my life have been very life-changing for me. My disorder cannot be “cured” but it can be dealt with. I have begun dealing with it in many ways I had never dreamed of before. First of all, I admitted that I have this disorder to my family and friends. This is something I had kept secret for many years. I was ashamed, frightened, and humiliated. Little did I know that in doing so, I was only keeping myself from getting better and keeping my loved ones from understanding me. I now, admit my illness to you, The Teeming Millions.

I have written many threads with the recurring theme of how lonely and unhappy I am and how I yearn for a mate. I have also been “difficult” with many of you when you chose to reply and tried to help. I truly and seriously apologize for this. It is my fault that I have not told you of my disorder, so that you may better understand and help me if you desired to. Well, my friends, “I am coming out of the closet.” I am laying it all out on the table for all too see, learn, and understand. I am tired of denying my problems, denying myself, and denying life. I want to get better and I want to have a full life, just like the rest of the world. That is not going to change, until I start facing it by sharing my problem openly with the world. This is me in raw, honest form. The hardest part of anyone outside coming to terms with my disorder, is accepting that it is an integral and eternal part of my being and who I am. It cannot simply be erased like writing from a chalkboard. However, I believe that with time, patience, and understanding, the writing on the chalkboard can, not be erased, but rather, overwritten.

What is Avoidant Personality Disorder?
I have many links to share with you if you desire to read them. Some are short, some are long, but I plead with you who wish to research this, that you read as much as possible. This disorder is quite complex, and cannot be properly perceived through a few short paragraphs and pages. You may encounter a good deal of repetition in some of the articles, but please, do not let this discourage your reading.

[li]This is the bare basics. A very brief summary of symptoms.[/li][li]This is one of the best in-depth pages I have found online about AvPD.[/li][li]The Avoidant Personality Disorder Homepage[/li][li]More about AvPD.[/li]
I could post a ton more, but I digress for the moment. If you desire more links, let me know and I can post them or Email them. IM’s are welcome.

So, hopefully, the above will help some of you understand why:
[li] I am unemployed and have a very difficult time getting a new job or staying with a job. AvPD significantly interferes with my working.[/li][li] I have absolutely no friends, IRL.[/li][li] I am not adept at making new friends or meeting women.[/li][li] I am living with my mother at age 31.[/li]
Now another question remains: What am I doing about overcoming this disorder? IMHO, more than I ever have before.
[li] I openly admit, to myself and others, that I have this problem and that it’s a part me.[/li][li] I am getting myself out in the world as much and more than ever. For example, by going to two different churches 4 times a week.[/li][li] Researching the problem so that I may have a better understanding of the problem and of myself.[/li][li] Sharing this research with others, so that they may have a better understanding of the problem and of myself.[/li]
I would like to return to counseling for this problem, but the cost is a major problem at this time, and my family is not willing to help. I am not aware of what medications, if any, are available for this exact disorder. My previous Rx was for depression and was called Serzone and it helped the depression only. I have no insurance. I have no savings. I may have to look into Medicaid, Social Security, or disability income. I have done some research into Medicaid, and I do not believe I would qualify. Even so, to incur any of these, I most likely would need a letter from a physician about the problem, would I not? It’s quite a mess. I am not eligible for unemployment compensation.

My friends, as if the above were not enough a burden to bear, I learned in January that there is a very strong & likely possibility that I have recently contracted Reiter’s Syndrome, a physical disorder, as well. I have a good number of the symptoms, the worst being significant eye problems, significant joint pain, and uncomfortable urethral problems.

The hardest part of all of this, is I have to endure all of this alone. My family is not standing by my side, my girlfriend abandoned me, and my friends have all been long gone. It’s just me and God now. Perhaps there are some who here who are brave enough to help keep my spirits up. I know there is at least one, you know who you are. :smiley: Thanks for listening. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask.

Alan - MSK

MSK - You know I’m there, no matter what. You’ve got my AIM and my e-mail. I wish I could tell you more than I did earlier.

{{{{ALAN}}}}}

{{{{{Alan}}}}}
You’re not alone, dude.
I’m not a counsellor and have no real psycological knowledge but please feel free to E-mail me if you just need someone to talk to.

Is it possible for you to do volunteer work while you look for a paid job? It would at least get you out and making contact with people.

(((((((Alan)))))))

I don’t know you well, but if you need to talk to someone, e-mail me or IM me. I will keep you in my prayers and hope that your situation improves.

Dude, anytime ya’ want to talk…

AIM: ImpulseD08 or sk8rixtx
E-mail: sk8rixtx@speed-racer.com

And that goes for anyone else as well.

p.s. You rock.

Oh, you dear soul. It was good that you let this out. I think it is probably a good and healthy sign.

My earnest and heartfelt prayers are with you. I pray that the hearts of your family members will be softened, since I am sure their support would be much appreciated. But whatever happens with them, I can see the strength in you, and I KNOW you can do what you need to do. Many blessings and good wishes to you.

I want thank those who have responded so far. Your words, though few, have significant meaning and I appreciate them greatly. :slight_smile:

I would like to cover some more ground here with some major dilemmas I have to deal with on a regular basis. I need your two-cents worth.

Telling others about the problem…

When I meet someone new, should I tell them about my problem up front and if so, when? How do I know “when the time is right?” This is concerning friendships as well as dating.

You can see how this might cause complications. Often, people are uneasy about what they do not understand. Many do not want to take the time to understand. Sometimes, they will try to understand, but like my ex-girlfriend and my mother, they refuse to accept it as a real problem. I have so often encountered the “I have enough of my own problems to deal with, I don’t need yours too,” attitude. It is a very delicate issue which I am only now, learning how to express to others. IMHO, those who refuse to understand and accept my disorder, are not worth my time anyway. It’s the ones who will stand by my side, try to empathize with me, and encourage me, who will be the ones worth knowing, such as TruePisces, TPWombat, Lsura, sk8rixtx, and yosemitebabe. My only disappointment is that I don’t know these people in person, and these kind of people, in general.

Employment issues

Because of my disorder, I have a horrendously erratic employment history. I have many large gaps of unemployment, job-hopping, and so on. That in of itself is damaging enough that I rarely get interviews. When a prospective interview does present itself, is this personality disorder something I should tell the employer about? Will the employer only screen me out further, because he and I don’t know how long I can perform the job? These are questions to which I have no answer. I feel it’s a very difficult issue to handle. Avoidant Personality Disorder is, and can be, extremely debilitating. However, technically speaking, it is not debilitating enough where I could be classified as officially “disabled.” At least, not to my knowledge. Sometimes, my disorder overwhelms me to where I can’t even go to a job interview, because I don’t know how to answer the questions I will be asked:
[li]“Why have you held so many jobs?”[/li][li]“What have you been doing since job such and such?”[/li][li]“Why do you have so many gaps in your resume?”[/li]Some people tell me I should just flat out lie, but I refuse to do so. At least I have integrity.

Where I am now
[li]Emotionally, I am struggling coming to terms with this disorder, plus my disease.[/li][li]A relationship that was very special to me came an abrupt and cold end. I am fighting with all my might to keep it from getting me down further.[/li][li]I am financially destitute. I receive food and shelter from my mother and nothing more. The rest is up to me.[/li][li]My mother has given me a limited amount of time to stay at her home. When this time is up, I don’t know where I will go or how I will live.[/li][li]I have no other family that I can turn to. I am an only child and most of my other relatives have passed on.[/li][li]I am scared to death.[/li][li]Hi Opal. (I just had to throw that in.)[/li]
I am at my wits end. I have no answers. I have no solution. Time is running out. I know Mom isn’t going to be around forever, nor do I wish to depend on her forever either. I would love to be independent, but that is easier wished than done. Something has to be done. Right now, the biggest dilemma I face is:

[li]no job/no money = no professional help[/li][li]no professional help = no job/no money.[/li]
I can FORCE myself to work, if someone would hire me, but even so, at what cost to my emotional well being? I would get my butt into therapy as soon as I could though.

I am struggling with depression once again, though this is not a dangerous bout. However, I struggle each day to find something worth getting myself out of bed for. I try to find hope, but it is like chasing rainbows. Always in sight, but just out of reach. I do know this: no matter how bad it gets or what happens from here on, I will survive. I won’t give up. I gave up once six years ago, and that is not something I will ever allow to happen again. Nothing is worth that kind of suffering. The horrors I went through when I had my breakdown were nothing I ever want to encounter again. A month from now, I might be living in my car on the streets. I don’t know. My Mom can give up, my girlfriend can give up, but dammit I am not giving up. The only comfort I find is that I am alive, and for the most part, healthy. I thank God I have what I do have. I have faith that, somewhere in this world, there is someone I haven’t met yet, who will always be there for me and that God will reveal this person when he sees fit.

Thanks for listening.

Alan - MSK

Alan, the fact that you are confident that you can get past this is what is going to save you. As you said, others can give up but you are not going to. Being strong is the best attribute you can have. And you also have the strength of your friends here behind you. I can’t speak for anyone else but I am here if you need me. My e-mail and ICQ are in my profile–feel free to use them.

May I offer a suggestion regarding employment? Are there any hospitals in your area? Regular full-service hospitals? They need people in all manner of positions from people to clean up to technical support to marketing. Many of these places also offer no cost psychological counseling for their employees–regardless of their job or benefits status. It might not be a bad idea to see if you can get on at a hospital in some capacity. If you could, even try to work third shift–fewer authority people around you which might help. Even if there is no hospital that you can be employed by, check out some different health care organizations in your area. They may offer a similar benefit.

Thank you, Evilbeth, for your kind words of encouragement and advice.

By the way, you don’t seem very evil at all. Quite the opposite, in fact.
You’re slipping! bwahahahaha! :wink:

I get told that a lot, actually. My plan is to thoroughly convince people that I’m not really eveil and then spring my evilness on them!

Mwuaahaa-haa-haa-haa!

Be warned! :wink:

Evilbeth is right about healthcare related jobs. I am in a job that is sorta related. I work for the State. The pay is crappy, but I can support myself, and I get GREAT benefits. And she’s also right about third shift. I have worked that shift a few times, it’s very peaceful for the most part. And they’re always needing people - sometimes healthcare jobs are not pretty nor glamorous, so not everyone wants to take them.

You mention your faith in God, and personally, I think this is a good thing. I usually don’t discuss personal faith issues too much on this board, (and I don’t want to be “preachy”) so I won’t ramble too long about this. But since I assume you do have some sort of faith, USE it. Rely on it. Avail yourself of it. It sounds like this is what you are doing - so I’ll just nag you to keep on doing it!!! My personal religious faith has really helped me a lot during very devastating and trying emotional times. Feel free to email me if you want to discuss this aspect further. And know that my prayers are with you.

The fact that you know you WILL survive this is such a good and positive thing. Many blessings to you!

I want to thank everyone once again who has contributed so far.

I also want to thank those who haven’t even read or replied to this thread and don’t even know they have helped. Some of the things I find on the SDMB submitted by others really help raise my spirits. I was having a particulary, “blah” day today, and some of the silly links I found in posts, made me laugh so hard I nearly wet myself.

I also want to thank those who took time to chat with me through AIM. You know who you are. Every little bit helps whether you know it or not.

I love this place. There are lot’s of great people here.

you are doing well so far. you have identified the things that are holding you back. you have clearly stated them and faced them. a fantastic start. you have investigated and learned how to deal with it. now the tough part… getting it all to work for you.

i agree with evilbeth, there are many employment opportunities in the healthcare area. an orderly on third shift is a good place to start. hospitals offer great healthcare benefits which would help you get where you want to be quicker. try any hospitals in your area. they may even be more sympathetic to your disorder than non-healthcare places. what about the church groups you are with now? are there things that you could do there? even if they are non-pay?

i will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Thank you for posting those links MSK. The symptoms described fit me nearly perfectly. :eek:
I may have just found out what’s wrong with me.
(Well, one thing, anyway.)

Oh, my. You poor dear. I always enjoy reading your posts, especially ones about some remodeling work you’ve embarked on or decorating theme you’re working on, or whatever. The advice already given is excellent, especially about the jobs in the healthcare industry. Even the janitors in hospitals make decent money I hear. Also, check with your churches, they most likely do have some kind of program to get you some help. Your faith will see you through this, rest on His love and care.

You are very brave and strong to do this, and to be so firm in your resolve to not let it get you down again. Thank you for sharing this with all of us. I’m here for you also, and only a ping away on AIM, ICQ, or MSN messenger. Email me too, if you just want to talk. I really admire you for sharing this with us, that must have been difficult for you. Take care, and let us know how it goes. Also, where do you live? What state? I’m curious, if you don’t mind telling.

{{{{{{{{Alan}}}}}}}}

Black Knight: Glad to be of help. I can link you up with many more sites if you wish. Let me know.

purplebear:

Thanks purplebear that means a lot to me :smiley: I live in Mishawaka, Indiana by the way. I will be looking you up.

Alan,
I’m glad to see you back on the boards. I’ve missed you.
Although I don’t really understand what’s happening with you, let me give you my $.02 about how coming forth might help. It has been hard on us as a group to support you when you seemed so always down and so unwilling to try to change your situation. Now we see that there is so much more involved, and I believe it will give us, as a group, much more patience when you don’t do what we suggest, the moment we suggest it. I’m glad that you have the faith in us to bring out a very personal issue, one that most will not have any prior experience with.
Now for the little advice I can think of:
Try the County mental health clinic. They may have a long waiting list, but you’ll get to the top sooner if you start now. Also try to find a support group of people who share similar issues. They are all coping somehow, too, and may have invaluable advice.
Again, stay strong and try to do something that will make you feel better about yourself every day. Mail me if you like!

Re motivation. I don’t really know what to say as this sounds like an organic issue and I have no startling, life changing insights to offer that will pull you out of this emotional paralysis. Everyone has problems and most people live lives of quiet desperation. Everyone is afraid of being humilated in social situations but most get past this because they have to. Money will give you the resources and freedom to make therapy and lifestyle decisions that can benefit you. As a practical matter I might suggest this be where you could start.

Re making money. There are a million ways for an intelligent person to make a good living. All it takes is determination and some creativity. If this disorder is really “wired in” and this is going to be an ongoing issue it sounds like the best immediate plan might be to find a job that involves minimal social interaction and will still pay the bills.

I have no clue what your job skills are but some ideas re things you could do to make a living via telephone or PC with minimal public contact and working for yourself are:

Selling some sort of collectible or special interest item via Ebay etc

Selling some kind of special purpose hardware items

Web design

Brokering deals for buyers and sellers of a particular good or service.

etc etc
As an example. Finding deals for people. If I was so inclined I have no doubt I could make 50,000. to 100,000. a year buying and selling PC hardware components online. You’ve just got to be smart about deals and what’s hot and what’s not etc.

Money is literally flowing like a river between your legs. You’ve only got to open your eyes and reach out your hands to grab it. People will pay (and handsomely too)- for unique high quality services. Think seriously and objectively about what skill sets and knowledge bases you have the capacity to acquire, execute on and deliver.

And as a last point remember what Winston Churchill said -

“Never,never,never,never give up”

  • Winston Churchill

My mother has resorted to psuedo-terrorism?

Mom has pulled this stunt before and I don’t think it’s humane. She refuses to buy groceries to sustain anyone other than herself. Thus of course, excluding me. She has this “no work = no eat” philosophy.

Right now, there’s literally barely any food here. I don’t know when, or what, or how she eats, but it’s not around me. She must eat her main meal when she’s on lunch at work most of the time. I have mostly been living on Ramen Noodles for the past two weeks. She thinks if she starves me, I’ll go work, despite my disorder. She doesn’t realize the damage she is doing. I have confronted her about this but she makes excuses like, “I can’t afford to go shopping.” which is utter baloney. Mom is a professional CAD operator and she earns good money. I think she is hoarding it in the bank and lying about it. I don’t want her money. I just want groceries; a man has to eat.

I am not in ill-health or anything. I DO eat daily, but nothing you could consider a meal, let alone a healthy meal… ramen noodles, malt-o-meal, popcorn, PBJ sandwiches… Yes, I can and do cook, but there’s nothing to prepare! The refrigerator is almost bare, as well as the pantry! Except for milk, all that is in the fridge is juice and condiments.

I guess I am going to have get on food stamps so I can feed myself. You got to do what you got to do, I guess. If I can’t get food stamps, I am screwed. I will just have to force myself into a shit job temporarily.

Things are getting critical anyway. Maybe I should get a shit job, just to keep my car fueled and insurance paid. I can’t lose my only source of freedom. I am destitute. I have all of eleven dollars to my name as of this post and no income whatsoever.

Anyway, I think what mom is doing is very wrong, despite her intentions. Am I right? There’s a big difference between a healthy push, and tyrannical force.

Ah, that sounds a lot like what my dad does sometimes…(Run a search in the pit, I have a couple threads about him).

I can’t really give advice on what type of job you could/should get, but I do have an idea of what it’s like. I agree, what your mother is doing is wrong. Try and work out a deal with her that trying to get a job will get you support from her. Then hopefully you’ll have time to find a job that isn’t too horrible.

Best wishes!