[QUOTE=Sampiro]
Maybe he didn’t have Mary Kate Olsen’s phone number.
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[QUOTE=Miller]
A drug dealer who doesn’t have the Olsen’s phone numbers? That seems unlikely.
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Comedy gold. Dark, but gold.
Sailboat
[QUOTE=atomicbadgerrace]
Maybe we can get back to covering some real national news soon.
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Not unless we send Brittney Spears to Aruba on a blind date with Joran.
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]
Granted, you don’t deserve to die just because youre out drinking taking drugs and fucking at age 17 in a strange country with strange dudes when you’re supposed to be in bed, but you do get less sympathy than someone abducted and killed while walking home from the library. If you drive to the a bad part of town and get high in a crack house and get shot, you gotta share in at least part of the blame for your demise.
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Anyone who gets abducted and tossed in the ocean gets my sympathy whether she’s on crack or stone sober, whether she’s just fucked the entire population of Aruba or a virgin.
Holloway’s life was cut short by a sociopath. I hope he finally meets justice.
Bullshit. Her life was cut short by her drinking and snorting too much.
Joran didn’t kill her, he hid her body.
Not that that makes him eligible for the title Gentleman of the year but he didn’t abduct and kill her.
[QUOTE=Genghis Bob]
What *really * sucks is that this means six more weeks of Nancy Grace. . . 
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Did she see her shadow when she popped out of her hole on Saturday?
[QUOTE=Scoundrel Swanswater]
Bullshit. Her life was cut short by her drinking and snorting too much.
Joran didn’t kill her, he hid her body.
Not that that makes him eligible for the title Gentleman of the year but he didn’t abduct and kill her.
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Maybe and maybe not, even he admitted he did not know if she was actually dead or not when his friend dumped her.
But at least he “didn’t lose any sleep” over her death. :rolleyes: (for him not you, Scoundrel)
I’ve been around some real despicable people in my day, but even the most soulless methed out biker would have enough decency to dump your unconscious body somewhere other than the ocean.
That’s why you don’t, like, go off and fuck some dude you met ten seconds ago- its hard enough picking out the pyschos you’ve taken the time to get to know a bit before you go out with them, let alone a total stranger.
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]
That’s why you don’t, like, go off and fuck some dude you met ten seconds ago
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NOW you tell me!
[QUOTE=Death of Rats]
Maybe and maybe not, even he admitted he did not know if she was actually dead or not when his friend dumped her.
But at least he “didn’t lose any sleep” over her death. :rolleyes: (for him not you, Scoundrel)
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He might not have been 100% sure she was dead in hindsight, but I don’t think there is really that much doubt.
Peter R. de Vries is sort of the Dutch Geraldo and likes to make things appear even more disturbing then they already are.
I also wouldn’t take everything too literal Joran says in these “interviews”.
Fact is that most criminals, and especially young ones, exagerate their own coolness.
Who knows, he might have wept the whole night, he isn’t going to tell his partner-in-crime.
I still think the biggest crime he commited was just being plain stupid.
What would they have done to him if he had just rang an ambulance?
He might not have grown up to be prime minister of the Netherlands, but neither will he now.
[QUOTE=Nutty Bunny]
That’s my point, exactly. After graduation, kids usually get a job and mature a little bit after being out of the cocoon of high school. To let their child go to a strange country unsupervised immediately after graduation was irresponsible.
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Really? Almost all my friends, male and female, did it. I went with two friends on a Eurail trip for a month. If I’m responsible enough to go off to college in September/October, I’d hope I’m responsible enough to see a bit of the world in the couple of months before.
It seems like another instance of the US treating 18 year olds like children, which, IMHO, leads them to behave like children.
[QUOTE=Scoundrel Swanswater]
Dutch Geraldo
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Ahem. Band name.
How many cameras did that guy install in his car anyway? I also liked how they took the time to edit the footage so the TV audience wouldn’t be looking at the same boring shot for the entire confession.
[QUOTE=Cluricaun]
I’ve been around some real despicable people in my day, but even the most soulless methed out biker would have enough decency to dump your unconscious body somewhere other than the ocean.
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Absolutely. That’s what the Fox River is for! 
[QUOTE=Scoundrel Swanswater]
He might not have been 100% sure she was dead in hindsight, but I don’t think there is really that much doubt.
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I would think a lot of doubt would be in order since the only information to go by is coming from at best, a known liar and at worse, a cold-blood murderer.
The only way you could surmise that his biggest crime was being stupid is if you believe that he is telling the whole ungarnished truth. That itself is pretty stupid, if you ask me.
Apparently several hundred people were murdered in Detroit alone last year. Will Nancy Grace be getting to all of those as soon as she’s finished her trenchant analysis of the Holloway case?
[QUOTE=Nutty Bunny]
That’s my point, exactly. After graduation, kids usually get a job and mature a little bit after being out of the cocoon of high school. To let their child go to a strange country unsupervised immediately after graduation was irresponsible.
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[QUOTE=villa]
Really? Almost all my friends, male and female, did it. I went with two friends on a Eurail trip for a month. If I’m responsible enough to go off to college in September/October, I’d hope I’m responsible enough to see a bit of the world in the couple of months before.
It seems like another instance of the US treating 18 year olds like children, which, IMHO, leads them to behave like children.
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Of course, the difference is, teens (and college kids, and others) go to places like Aruba, or Puerto Viarta (sp?), or any number of other tropical destinations on their vacations, specifically to let loose, get drunk, or whatever. Not that that can’t go on in other places, but you’ve got cities/islands that are destinations specifically because there’s a lot of drinking and debauchery going on; and that’s how the tourist bureaus make money.
It’s not about being a strange country; I wouldn’t let my kid go to Daytona beach on her own to party during spring break after she graduated high school either.
I’m dubious about the whole confession thing in the first place. If you think U.S. journalists have only tatters of their credibility left, the Euros are even worse. What one sees on the video of Joran van der Sloot “confessing” may not be what really happened.
I’m just sayin’, before we start talking about “closure,” let’s exercise due skepticism.
[QUOTE=Eonwe]
Of course, the difference is, teens (and college kids, and others) go to places like Aruba, or Puerto Viarta (sp?), or any number of other tropical destinations on their vacations, specifically to let loose, get drunk, or whatever. Not that that can’t go on in other places, but you’ve got cities/islands that are destinations specifically because there’s a lot of drinking and debauchery going on; and that’s how the tourist bureaus make money.
It’s not about being a strange country; I wouldn’t let my kid go to Daytona beach on her own to party during spring break after she graduated high school either.
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I have to tell you, the purpose of me backpacking around Italy, France, Germany et al was not to visit the art galleries. Then again, I didn’t grow up with alcohol being taboo, and so it was hardly the first time I went out to get bladdered.
It sounds like Joran Van der Sloot will be really hard to convict.