A couple of points:
You should “target” whatever type of women you like.
Clubs are a convenient place to meet women because it’s tough to meet women who sit at home watching movies on Sat night. The downside is you tend to meet the sort of women who like going to clubs.
If it was all that normal and practical, don’t you think you’d be getting better results? I know everyone hates Dr. Phil and his catchphrases, but there really is some value to the question “And how’s that working out for you?” It doesn’t seem to me that your current attitudes and behavior are working out all that well, ya know?
Some of the things you assert about men, about women, about young people, may be roughly true if you’re speaking in generalities. But generalities aren’t people, and vice versa. You can’t debate what movie to watch with a generality, or cook dinner with one, or fall asleep with your arm around it. For that you need an actual person, and people are complicated and unique; if you take any random person they’re going to hew to your generalities in some ways and depart wildly from them in others. If you can’t learn to embrace that fact, your odds of having a successful, lasting relationship go way, way down.
It would, in all honesty, probably get you further than “Hey, let’s fuck and then you can bake me a cake” or “Aw, you women are the most adorable little idiots, wanna go out with me?” which seems to be your current approach. And no, I’m not saying you actually come out and say such things–but if you talk in real life like you post in this thread, your other conversation says it for you. Just like when DoctorJ and I started dating he never actually said “I want to share your thoughts and love and respect and treat you as an equal.” His behavior said it for him.
I think they have suppositories for that now.
The average 30 year old is going to know first hand all the things you learn about relationships because they’ve been in long term committed relationships. These are things you basically refuse to acknowledge might exist, even though you have no way of knowing and everyone who does says they do exist.
Don’t get me wrong. A young woman is **also **going to think “Why is this guy so inexperienced? Can he possibly be mature enough to be in a relationship now?” But by virtue of the fact that she’s too young to have experience herself she won’t really know all the things you should know by now. You can dodder through the newness of a relationship together.
Also, I think you’re going to have to work to find a real homebody of any age or accept that most people like going out occasionally. I have lots of friends in their late 20s and none of them would be excited to date a guy who wants to stay home and watch movies every night.
Guys like this, assuming they are this clueless in real life, must have missed some kind of memo.
This whole “beep beep boop Relationship with human female does not compute” kind of baffles me. I get that some people are very shy, or get anxious when talking to someone they like. I also understand people who feel socially obligated to have a partner but would rather be alone.
But men utterly incapable of relating to women confuse me. Unless they never interacted with female relatives ever, its not like they can’t observe that women are humans to, with the same failings and entitlements as men. I wonder if its a kind of learned helplessness, since these parts almost come off as bragging about how socially inept they are with women.
Someone that doesn’t know something but WANTS TO GET BETTER is going to be open to any advice they get, since at worst its something they’ve already tried but at best it could actually be useful.
The OP sounds like yet another voice in the internet social retard echo chamber.
[bolded]: I like this. That’s exactly what it sounds like.
I think it’s sour grapes.
For someone who asked: Cleo is a women’s magazine, like Cosmopolitan. Aimed at young women.
I spent most of my life before 30 desperately wanting a GF, and after I got one to have a relationship with me , I spent the next 20 desperately trying NOT to have a GF.
It wasn’t till I went to Asia that I realised that not all women are potentially grasping, demanding and using.
One of my favourite google sites is “why I hate western women”.
BTW, I do have western women friends, but I’d run a mile if they ever tried to be romantically involved with me.
Sounds to me like one of your favorite “Google sites” is “Why I hate women”, period. Of course, I’m only judging by every single post you’ve made in this thread.
Rubbish. If you’d read some of my other posts, you’d realise I “love” Asian women, and did you miss the bit where I said I have western women friends.
Considering I worked in a female dominated job for over 20 years it’d have been hard to survive if I hated women.
Oh, you love Asian women, and think Western women are all “grasping, demanding and using”. Yep, nothing fucked up about that.
Also, I didn’t miss the bit where you said you had Western women friends, just like I don’t miss it when somebody says, “But some of my best friends are black!”
I don’t get it. What if he were friends with black women ?
I think Asian women are cute, and the can cook good food so I can understand him liking Asian women. Why are you against him having his own opinion on what he likes ?
Also I don’t think Asian women would make an appropriate partner for me as they are very small and I’d probably end up hurting them.
I understand you don’t get it. I’ve read your posts.
That’s what it sounds like, or the Borat thing. Skinny, fat, & depressed, what else has the OP got?
I think the facts are that men are attracted more to the physical yes, but women more to social status. Learn to mimic a high status male and you have it made.
No, I don’t think this is good idea. I know this is a tired old cliche, but be yourself as being dishonest about who you are usually works for all of about 5 minutes at which point people see through any act you put on. Even worse than that the longer you can deceive someone, the more they will dislike you for doing it. Besides which I don’t think it is particular healthy to see the World in terms of high status and low status people as when you do that you start to see status as an objective rather than subjective thing and you also miss the dynamism that an individual’s status tends to have within a group.
That said there’s being dishonest and there’s being too honest. Sometimes you may have views that you are unlikely to profit from sharing (I’m thinking the OP’s views on subjects such as cake and sexual politics), in which case it’s probably best to keep them to yourself (and that’s genuine advice, not a roundabout way of telling the OP to shut it).
Well this only would work if people are inherently interested in you. If I were inherently interesting do you think it likely that after say, a minimum of 15 years of being sexually aware that some woman somewhere might have decided she was interested ?
Every now and then I think some girl might be attracted to me but it is usually all inside my head and they usually find me as attractive as another woman or just hate my guts.
Probably you should take steps to make yourself interesting. Work out, play a sport, get a hobby, read some good books, etc. In the meantime, fake it till you make it.
Honestly, it don’t work that way. For example people tend to find people who are interested in what they have to say the most interesting and people who only want to talk about themselves get boring very quickly even if they have an interesting background. Social skills are the usual way to make people interested in you and like any skill you can always improve them by practice
You seem to be very keen to prove to yourself that no woman could be interested in you, but are you being 100% rational here and if you’re really so certain would you need to debate it? What do you get out of thinking this way? Overall do you think it’s helpful?
Overall I think you may tend to see things in too definite and fixed terms, which is something that often goes with depression. But it’s important to realize that World (including ourselves) is a very dynamic place, far more than we often to change something it is important to first have the belief it can be changed.