Never had a girlfriend and nearly 30

OP, I truly do wish you all the best luck in finding a serious, long-term girlfriend. I think you might stop spewing such ridiculous shit then. :slight_smile:

Wow, this thread did not go in any direction I thought it would. I just wanted to add in case there any other lurkers out there, that yes, there are other adult guys out there who have never had a girlfriend. And some of us are even well adjusted, non-misogynistic, otherwise normal dudes. Well, as normal as can be expected I guess.

38 year old never GF’ed here, so maybe I’m not the best person to be giving advice, but I’ll try anyway. I also spent a too-long chunk of my life disconnected from women. Like a few of the posters here, I would either put women on a pedestal and get intimidated, or get painfully frustrated by the guys they would choose. I would waffle between thinking I would never be good enough, to thinking why even bother.

The best thing that helped me was just to make more female friends. Particulary ones who I wasn’t necessarily attracted to, or were simply off limits so there wasn’t the that romantic tension. The more I got comfortable just hanging out with them without having to analyze every little thing I said and did, the more I realized they’re not really any different from us guys. I stopped looking for the perfect girl and started looking for the perfect girl for me. I still haven’t found her yet, but now I have a bunch of lady-friends who just think I’m nice, fun, normal Joe, and even try to fix me up with their single friends. They know I don’t date much, but they think it’s just because I’m picky, not because I’m some never-had-a-girlfriend-freak.

Maybe I’ll find the one and maybe I won’t, but I’ll survive either way. Getting over shyness, or depression, or whatever your issue is, can be a long hard uphill battle, but hang in there bro’s. It can get better.

+1.

No, plus one hundred.

Female friends doesn’t work you will never be more than friends.

Did you read what he said at all? I hope not, because that would make it more understandable that you missed the point completely.

If the only value that women have to you is whether or not you have sex with them, then I can see what your problem is.

I have had lots of conversations with women. As I said I like women. They’re good to talk to. I’m sorry but I just don’t agree with this “internet notion” that men and women are fundamentally the same.

Internet dating usually only works if you’r the kind of person who could go out and get laid anyway.

That is a very odd thing to say and I do not know what gave you that idea. I suspect misandrist posters have attached themselves to this thread, it is very hard to keep track of all replies.

If you read my posts it should be absolutely clear that it is not what I am after from a woman. The misandrists would have tried to create that image because I do not agree with all of their opinions.

I suspect that Lynn got that impression from your earlier posts like:

I can see where she might get confused, being a misandrist woman and all that.

I said “other stuff doesn’t hurt either”.

Ah. I must have gotten confused by the multiple shades of meaning contained in the word “mostly.” My sincere apologies.

So you’re gonna marry some woman, but never plant your seed in her ?

That’s quite the non sequiter you’ve got there. I would have it checked out at the walk-in clinic if I were you.

I could, but then I’d need a new hat.

It seems that you are primarily interested in sex and you relegate everything else in a relationship to a throw away phrase, “other stuff”. What you should realise is that for most couples, once the initial lust phase of the relationship dies out, the relationship is somewhere around 90-99% “other stuff”. You might find it easier to find the right woman if you change your priorities to wanting a strong intellectual/mental relationship with sex being a bonus. It is the “other stuff” that makes the relationship work.

I am not an intellectual. I probably wouldn’t understand your intellectual topics. They’re just too complicated for me. So I need someone on my own level. Someone happy to discuss boring non-intellectual things, like what kind of cake she wants to bake. Then I’ll talk about the lawn.

I’d like something baked, with fruit in it. I’m thinking blue berries. See this is why I need a girlfriend. We could dedicate the weekend to baking a blueberry cake.

You know, you might be better off with regular visits to a bakery. That would be cheaper, easier, give you a more reliable and dependable access to high-quality baked goods, and demand much less commitment.

All I mean is that the relationship should be based on something other than sex. The best girlfriends I’ve had were primarily friends, sex was secondary. If you are after a primarily sexual relationship then stick with your prostitutes because the chances of finding someone you can have a long lasting primarily sexual relationship with is small.

My girlfriend has similar interests to me, we do stuff together, biking, skiing, flying, playing computer games, watching TV, etc. We also have individual interests that the other doesn’t have, so we are not in each other’s pockets all the time. Oh, and we also have good sex, but if you take the sex away there’s a lot left. So I know that as we get older and our sex drives diminish, our relationship will stay strong. The way you present yourself here it seems that if you couldn’t have a relationship with sex, you wouldn’t bother with a relationship at all.

I guess I was never best friends with my husband for years before we started dating - no siree, there’s no way a friendship could blossom into something more!

Also, Mrmanface, you do have friends right? What’s the problem with some of those friends being women…just because? Why not try it out? Many people on the board have said it helped them and none have said it was a bad idea, so what’s the harm in trying?