I have no issue with someone being skeptical, but I’m surprised they’d be willing to be ‘skeptical’ on this specific incident (a violent attack) and in this specific way (suggesting it was staged) just a few weeks after the Alex Jones case wrapped up.
But that was a huge case that he probably knew right from the outset would bankrupt him if he lost so he had every reason to fight it.
Similarly, if the Pelosi’s sue NewsMax or that anchor for a billion dollars, I could see it playing out in a similar fashion. But maybe if they were sued for, say, a million dollars and a promise to stop saying these things, they might settle to just to be done with it.
I wonder if the attacker could have a case against them as well.
Against the right wing media that basically told him that it was his obligation to try to kill the Speaker of the House.
I don’t know that it would go anywhere, I actually doubt it, but it is similar to the defense that was raised by lawyers defending some of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists, saying that they believed that their president called them to act. (I don’t think that went anywhere either.)
I don’t know law well enough to know if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me. But again the Alex Jones case wrapped up just a few weeks ago. It might be difficult for a defendant, specifically a news anchor that, when referring to the Alex Jones case, said “this is America and you’re allowed to say anything” isn’t aware of the potential repercussions of suggesting a violent attack was fake. We saw testimony from Sandy Hook parents detailing the shit they’ve been through due to Alex Jones’ lies and now this guy is making damn near the same claims about the Pelosi attack (false flag, actors, staged etc).
I imagine the courts would make at least some distinction between a one-off, “Maybe it’s a fake?” JAQ-off, and a years-long campaign of disinformation.
If AJ had moved on from Sandy Hook after the first week, he’d probably have never ended up in court at all, and certainly wouldn’t have been on the hook for almost a billion dollars.
I agree. I wasn’t meaning to suggest that a lawsuit would even be successful, just that I’m surprised he would go down that road and open himself up to it (again, with the AJ case ending so recently).
My point is if the Pelosi’s sue NewsMax or that anchor for a billion dollars it won’t play out in a similar fashion because Times Co. v. Sullivan sets a higher bar for public figures. And if such a case were won it would eventually end up at SCotUS and we might get what Trump has said he wants, the ability to sue anyone that says anything negative about him. And probably a bonus to the ruling that states that as long as you provide yourself cover, the ‘People Are Saying’ part, you can say anything negative you want to about anybody.
In response to the attack, Greene tweeted that “violence and crime are rampant in Joe Biden’s America,” adding that “it shouldn’t happen to me.” She noted that she was swatted multiple times and has received death threats on a daily basis.
Rep. Jim McGovern replies:
“YOU called for Nancy Pelosi to be executed. YOU said she should be hung for treason,” the Massachusetts lawmaker tweeted. “And now that someone listened, you’re making Paul Pelosi’s attack about YOU. This is what Republicans stand for, America. It’s sick.”
Rep. McGovern can’t help what the cult members who support Greene want. All he can do is point out the truth. I personally applaud him for making this statement.
“People are being hit with hammers every day. People are being pushed into subways, slashed, shot in cold blood, but the media focuses on this one single crime to pin it on Republicans?” he said on his show, “Jesse Watters Primetime.”
It’s a ““clever”” way to say defamatory things with the cover that you’re not saying it you’re just repeating what others are saying . . . almost always with no evidence that others are actually saying anything.
E.G. ‘People are saying that Biden is too senile to remember to eat the baby meat pizza delivered from Comet Pizza’s basement to the Oval Office through the secret tunnels under the White House. Remember. We report, you decide.’
Bonus points when it can be shown that the place doing the reporting about what ‘people are saying’ is also the only place you can find the originating story.
Go on Fox and Friends and say defamatory things and by noon Fox is reporting what ‘people are saying’.