Way outside the bounds of discussion/classification.
But… but that would be unethical!
I’m surprised I could type that with a straignt face
When a marketer/mailer rents a list, they aren’t just given the list by the list owner who makes them pinky-finger promise only to use it once. The renter never gets direct access to the list.
The list owner provides it to the [third party] mailing house who uses it to send the mailing, then destroys/deletes it. Owners usually include a number of trap addresses in each list to make sure they are only used by legit renters for the contracted uses. Mailings received by the traps that haven’t been paid for open the mailer (who can’t exactly hide his identity) to penalties and lawsuits.
Good, clean lists, with a record of being productive for the desired demographics, are too valuable to give away or to allow someone to steal.
I was involved only in [snail mail] direct mail marketing decades ago, but I imagine the same principles have carried forward into the digital/e-mail/social media era.
Undoubtedly, things have changed, and someone with more recent experience may come along to update us, but I’m relatively confident that the basic principles I’ve described still apply.
I’m reminded of the Trump supporter from some years ago, who was a little disaffected with Trump. When asked why, she replied (paraphrased), “Well, he’s not hurting the people he’s supposed to be hurting.”
It doesn’t work like that. You don’t want to “own” the whole list. You only want the name of people who respond to your offer.
Let’s say you rent a list of 100,000 senior citizens at a certain income level (or cat lovers, or scuba divers, or people who travel on cruise ships). The list company sends the info to your mailing house. It used to be physical mailing labels-- not sure what the method is now. Your solicitation piece goes out, or drops.
An excellent return would be 2%, or 2,000 donations, acceptances of your offer, or whatever. You don’t care about the other 98,000, and you won’t waste money mailing to them again.
But you will go back to the 2,000 over and over again, as y’all have discovered. As those people drop out, move, disappear, or die, you’ll replenish responders by renting more targeted lists.
Ninja’d by @commasense
I’m surprised you type with your face.
It is amazing what they do with neural logic these days.
The thing is, despite the assertions that I’m one of their best supporters, worthy of having lunch with his nibs, I’ve not contributed so much as a dime and on the rare occasions I can respond to their polls without sending money I reply with invective.
Either they have no clue how “productive” I am or they are lying to the folks who rented the list.
Waitwaitwait.
Wait.
So, when I go to a site that wants to distribute cookies, and they have a little check box that says “Do Not Sell My Information,” What I should REALLY be looking for is a box that says “Do Not RENT My Information”?
You replied to their polls! Do you imagine that they look at the responses to those fake polls? And having responded even once, they now can rent you out to others.
Also, you are probably in a number of demographic groups that match their targets: neighborhood, age, race, purchasing history, etc., and show up on multiple lists that they rent.
They have to say “sell” to dumb it down because most people would not grasp the concept of “renting” lists. But now you do, so no problem.
I dunno. If I opt into an enforceable prohibition on the selling of my information, I’m not prepared to trust that they won’t try to weasel their way out of it by distinguishing between selling and renting.
A candidate for governor of Georgia is running on a platform of blowing up some “Satanic” granite slabs.
I’m pretty sure she’s the only candidate who knew/invented/imagined “Satanic Tablets”.
Wife and I are here in GA with the grandkids; this person’s presence in the political/election sphere is
I’d love to see one of her more patriotic (R) opponents slam her in an ad for being soft on “Democrat” pedo pizza joints.
There is precedent.
Yeah, that was my reaction.
Hello? >click-click< Operator! I’ve been cut off!
“… typical of the Republican party.” That’s how that one ends.
I’ve visited that monument. It and nearby Elberton are solid granite. I’m convinced it could survive a nuclear attack.