I agree with this assessment, well played octopus
Yeah, no. All he has done is taken the bait and swallowed it hard. He still completely contradicts himself, whining about how everyone is so mean, while deliberately coming up with ways to attack them. He has not convinced a single person that they were wrong to attack him, nor that his behavior was acceptable in the other threads.
There are two win conditions in online arguments: Your opponents agree that you are right and they are wrong, or third parties come in and clearly think you are right and they are wrong. Everything else is a draw.
It seems you are falling for the tactic described in this video. To win, he would have to successfully defend himself. But, instead, he’s just always on the attack, creating the illusion of winning, since he never defends.
But, the thing is, your tone has nothing to do with whether you win or lose. What matters in an argument is whether you have convinced people of your claims being correct. And I am rather certain that most people still see octopus as the asshole who hijacks threads with his bullshit.
And, yes, I know. I could have been short and snappy. But it doesn’t fucking matter. What matters at the end is whether people believe you. I’ve “won” threads before despite literally everyone attacking me, because, later on, people actually repeated my own logic in a new thread, acting like it was their idea.
That’s winning.
Whatever. I see a bunch of posters getting increasingly exasperated while their target laughs at them, turns their insults against them, and just generally seems to be having a great time tweaking their noses. You think anyone here cares about arguments? Please. This thread was created to rip on octopus and on that score it’s a miserable failure. At least half the people who’ve taken it upon themselves to “bring him down” have been reduced to various stages of online meltdown. Drunky Smurf has gone off the deep end, fervour seems to be literally losing his mind, Mr Dibble is coming off as just another mean spirited internet bully, and what’s octopus doing? Showering them with fake Bingo points while laughing his ass off. Win for octopus.
He’s winning here, but he hasn’t won yet. I encourage him to dedicate 100% of his straight dope posts to winning this thread, because that’s what it’s gonna take.
You’re worthwhile. If that shit isn’t banned by the weekend, I’ll eat my hat. He has said we are worthless. Why is he here if we’re worthless?
How is this not a bridge too far? How is this not contempt for everyone here? I’m serious. I want to understand how this doesn’t qualify as being a jerk.
I would have said that sanctimonious whining from BigT is another hit on the octopus bingo card, but it is like the center square - everyone gets it anyway.
Regards,
Shodan
Hey. I resent you comparing me to octopus.
You are another who hates everyone but keeps showing up. I don’t think you a troll. A crack head maybe. You have your own poison. It’s true enough.
Well, this thread is clearly a good use of the poor overworked server.
That’s discriminatory against people with cracked heads, you should be ashamed!
fervour, ‘incoherent meltdown’ has already been called. Can you try another tack?
Regards,
Shodan
Nope
Clever. You get a stamp. I should actually make Bingo cards for this.
Shodan did call the stamp correctly. But I like you anyways BigT. You try to be noble. But you have analyzed this wrong. There isn’t arguing in the Pit. I mean there is to a point. Oooh a contradiction. What the Pit has really devolved into is a place where people can be their truer selves.
It’s where bullies get free reign to harass, stalk, gaslight, and gang up to try to silence those they don’t like. And the concept you haven’t gotten through your head is that fighting back is different than unprovoked attacks.
And believe me, they don’t want agreement with a point in a debate. They want uniformity of thought and submission.
I can do what they do. I can go to every Pit thread they are in. Post recipes do what drunky does and paste links of junk. I could. I don’t. Why, because unlike these fools who mock, ridicule, and abuse in multiple forums I have a sense of restraint.
Fervor, don’t eat your hat. Just lay off the mushrooms.
Of all the content in the Pit that would rise to the level of being-a-Jerk-while-in-the-Pit which is like finding a unicorn you chose that quote? You can’t be serious. That does get a :dubious:. Good job.
Oh, you’re no fun.
Regards,
Shodan
Are you fishing for a Bingo stamp? I was hoping you’d help judge.
Good for you. Will you start making sense now?
Oh look, Morgenstern is posting a complete list of his thoughts.
Regards,
Shodan