It’s really due to ‘Donald Trump’s going to win’. If both candidates were conventional the market wouldn’t care nearly as much if the polls were wrong. It moved so much tonight because the election predictions were wrong and Trump himself as president introduces much more uncertainty, as markets perceive it.
BTW we can’t fully see now how far down the US stock market is because the S&P futures have reached their overnight trading limit of 5% down. Asian markets though are mostly down less than that in their normal trading hours, only the Japanese stock market is down more 5% so far.
If Trump wins, I blame HRC. She should have had this in the bag. But then, she should have had it in the bag in 2008, too. And she almost lost to Bernie in 2016, too. Face it, she’s a terrible campaigner on a national level.
Because on this board a) most of us conservatives do not support Trump, and b) even the few that do know who he is.
We might actually have to make an effort to recruit real Trump fans, the most intelligent we can find, or else this board will spend the next four years being even less representative than it already is.
And it’s something some of us had been pointing out since 2010 and the President himself called attention to in his Howard commencement speech earlier this year: the Obama voters show up for him. If he’s not there, then it’s “whaat-everrr…”
The thing is, a black/latino working class voter has been lagging under “the system” as it has stood the past 20 years just as much or worse as the “white working class” voter and what did Clinton bring into the game for them? More of “the system”??
Agree completely. I was not happy Bush won in 2000/2004, but even with him I did not feel this dejected about the outcome. Trump was so incalculably flawed, a naked liar in public who jumped from one mistruth to another, and no one cared, they don’t care if a man lies to their face, because they believe he is with them in some other important areas.
Like building the wall, and their hatred of Hillary, you get that with chants of lock her up.
Hate won this election, and I guess people Hated Hillary more. Worse still, now that this pathway has lead to victory, I forsee dark days ahead for republicans as they continue to spiral down this path to chase electoral victory. Like knights of the old republic showed us, to be united in hatred is a fragile alliance at best:
Yeah, but people are complaining about the polls, but the only place the polls seemed to have gone wrong is in the industrial Midwest. Well, also VA and NC. But that’s far from ALL of them being off as some people seem to think.
My mom basically talked me down with the whole “he didn’t want to be president” thing. You know, when he wanted to make his VP basically act as president. I don’t like Pence, but he’s better than Trump.
Well, that and the idea that maybe the Republicans in the Senate won’t be in lock step with him and won’t destroy the filibuster, and that the Supreme Court justices will intentionally hold on as long as they can. So we just get the status quo there.
And, of course, what Corry El said about his base being isolationist, meaning he won’t start a nuclear war.
I think there a quite a few Republicans that, while not willing to publicly support Trump, are perfectly will to stand aside and let him do his damage while shrugging their shoulders and saying, “I said I wasn’t going to vote for him, and (for all you know) I didn’t-what more could I possibly have done?”
Don’t blame Hillary, blame Democrats for not having a serious candidate worth running. She’s a terrible candidate but the DNC was scared to death to primary against her.
The only thing that gives me a ray of hope is that Trump, from beginning to end, really did do this on his own. He’s his own man. Maybe he’s not as republican as we think he is. I’m willing to give him a chance.
