Lied. It’s a game of bluffing. When HookerChemical shows up, it would have been best if there’d been a couple of competing claims about what happened in the night and then their response could confirm or deny a particular claim. As it is, they’ll claim villager.
I agree, JB. If it were me, I’d have required the game to end hours ago.
Holy cow, this game is moving fast. I didn’t think a day-long period away from the board would put me so far behind. I’m partially through the thread, but here are a few quick comments.
We’re less than 24 hours into play, Prof. P. Have you learned nothing about suggesting LtL, or do we send TexCat after you again?
Nope. Villager.
A am not the mason. I’m a villager. I have not made the claim of being a Mason, though I think others inferred it from Prof P’s statements.
There’s a lot in IS’s claim to go wrong, so it’s bold. It’s also the first game of this, so it’s possible he simply misplayed it. I think the former is more likely.
I guess I can now say that I did not really switch the players I claimed I did.
I did lie. But no one else was playing along.
Ugh.
I have to agree with TexCat. This game went from ‘really interesting’ to ‘kind of dull’ to ‘sort of painful’ now.
Uh huh, and let me guess: one of the players you switched was Inner Stickler.
Sorry for the delay folks. I missed the start. By the time I showed up, the interesting lies had been told. Though it looks like Bio has one more to reveal.
Though at the moment I’m leaning strongly toward the IS lynch. If he’s a hunter, we win if he picks the werewolf. If he’s a wolf, we win flat out. One potential problem is that if there are no wolves in the game, the correct lynch is no lynch. But that would require that JB didn’t pick a wolf when he had a 67% chance of doing so.
oh, good, I’m a Mason again.
For the last time, I was a Tanner. I was not a werewolf.
Uh, I meant, maybe, I am a werewolf and you should kill me or something.
Yeah, I know THAT feeling.
I’m totally confused and lost, partly due to my own dumbness. It’s kind of a pain. I have no real idea what to do.
Oh jeez…all of my brains…they hurt…you guys play way too early in the morning for me…but anyway, I think I’m following along and might actually understand the game finally…maybe…I have nothing really to add at the moment however.
I can only say I started as Villager. Not sure if Biotop’s devious switchery involved me or not. But if not, then I am still Villager. I unfortunately have no way to really prove that however.
This seems fairly obvious to me (so I’m probably wrong, but whatever).
Post 165: Biotop says that we should wait on Hooker because his reveal could “turn this whole game upside down.”
Post 172: I show that if Biotop is really the troublemaker, there’s no way that Hooker’s reveal could be in any way earthshattering.
Post 182: Hooker claims villager.
Post 183: Biotop attempts to turn the game upside down by saying that he switched two different players.
So what happened? Biotop thought the game might be turned upside down because he was never the troublemaker and thought Hooker might have been. As soon as Hooker claimed villager, Biotop was safe to change his original story.
Why does it matter? Because Biotop is the other wolf and wants to throw things into confusion to keep us from killing Inner Stickler.
What now? Two possibilities.
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Biotop tells us that he switched Inner Stickler and somebody else, which is a transparent attempt to get us to change our plan to kill Inner Stickler. “Hey guys, he’s not the Hunter anymore. So-and-so is so we should kill him instead.”
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Biotop tells us that two different folks got switched, in which case Inner Stickler is still either the hunter or the wolf and we finish out the game as we’ve been planning.
What would a Biotop lone wolf scenario look like? He could see that there was no troublemaker, right? So no worries of a counter claim, and would now Sachertorte claim was false.
Inner Stickler as hunter would still be acting Alince-in-Wonderlandy to get killed so his shot would matter…
what else?
If a lone wolf Biotop knew there was no troublemaker, he wouldn’t have slipped that Hooker’s reveal might have turned the game “upside down.”
I’m going both ways on this. While I originally agreed with this, I’m trying to think of ways he could still use that slip of info to his advantage. I’m willing to believe he is devious enough to do figure out a way, even if I am not.
But his shot only matters as a second chance. As a hunter, if he weren’t acting weird and we didn’t target him and targeted a wolf instead, he’d still win with town.
It’s possible that I would have claimed something that had already been claimed but not confirmed. Perhaps that’s what he anticipated, but it’s pure speculation.
A Biotop/Stickler wolf duo doesn’t explain how Biotop knew to counter sachertorte’s claim.
A lone wolf Biotop who knows there’s no troublemaker still allows for a scenario where my evidence train in 119 confirms several town players.
It also still allows for us killing Inner Stickler and then IS killing Biotop.