One of my friends often acts like an bossy little snot . . .

. . . and sometimes I just want to give her a swift kick in the kiester.

This is purely LJ kind of stuff, so if it’s too M&P just let it sink like a rock. Normally I just let silly things like this go, but I’ve slept on this, and it’s still bugging me, so I kinda wanna hash it out and give it a good think. If you’d like to contribute to this process, I’d be interested in hearing your comments.

So I have this friend. Let’s call her Bossy Friend. Because she’s bossy. She likes to tell people what the should or shouldn’t be doing, and how they should and shouldn’t be acting. A lot. And she’s a hypocrite–though that’s phrasing it a bit strongly. For instance, she’ll tell someone to suck it up and quit whining about a trivial matter, only to be whining to beat the band about something equally triffling ten minutes later. She has a lot of great qualities. She’s smart, and generous, for instance. But for now it’s her Bossy characteristics that are getting on my nerves.

My husband, she and I were playing a game at games club. I was sick with a wee head cold, and had had a very busy stressful week. I wasn’t at my best, mentally or emotionally. The game finished. I won, mostly on luck in the last few rounds. Bossy Friend is usually a good loser, but maybe tonight she was annoyed at having lost. I don’t know. Anyway, I’ve been trying hard to stay hydrated because of my cold, especially because one of the symptoms is a dry, sore throat, and if I don’t have something to sip at I tend to start coughing. I needed to refill my water bottle, and the nearest water fountain was on the other end of the building, so I thought, “Aha, I will jaunt down and refill my water bottle while they clean up, so as not to delay the start of the next game.” So I stood and announced, “I’m going to go get water.”

Well, Bossy Friend immediately snapped, “Well, you can go get water if you want, but the game will still be here when you get back, because winner cleans up.”

I’m trying to understand exactly why I found this so damned annoying.

  1. I thought I was being considerate by running off to fill my bottle between games, instead of making everyone wait.

  2. If she thought I was being inconsiderate, she could have said, “Please help pick up before you go.” Saying, “The game will still be here when you get back” was childish and ridiculous.

  3. “Winner picks up” is nothing more than juvenile bullshit, most often declared by sore losers. The general etiquette is that all the players help. (And, indeed, if she had stood there and watched me pick up, I would have had words for her. But she helped pick up, too.)

  4. It’s not like I make a habit of skipping out on the clean-up phase. I don’t regard it as an unpleasant chore at all, and I think of the last, oh, say eight hundred board games I’ve played, I’ve helped pick up 798 of them. I resent being accused of intentionally trying to offload some onerous task on others.

  5. It’s not like I was walking away from a fucking crayon train game or something else that’s a pain to pick up. Picking up consisted of: Taking wooden pieces that were already sorted into neat piles by color and putting them in ziplocks, and picking up cardboard tiles, which do not need to be sorted, and dumping them in a box. It took about twenty seconds for me, Bossy Friend and my husband, to pick the game up.

I can think of several reasons why I shouldn’t be still fuming over this:

  • Bossy Friend is Bossy Friend. She does this kind of shit, and you just put up with it, because otherwise she’s a fairly nice person.

  • As per #5, it didn’t take long. I was delayed less than half a minute, got my water, life was good.

  • As per #3, the other players had every right to expect my help picking up.

  • If I was soooo fucking sick, I probably should have stayed home (except that wouldn’t have meant my husband couldn’t go to gaming, since he was my ride home.)

I guess what I really boils down to two things. One, it would have been nice for my friend, just this once, to give me a teeny tiny bit of help on a day that I wasn’t feeling well. Two, I really resent the tone she took and the way she chose to express herself. If I regularly tried to kite off without helping pick up, I’d deserve a sharp word, but I don’t. I might add that I’m sure if we really racked our memories, we might have come up with one or two cases when I picked up for her, since she has a habit of wanting to play in a new game that other people are starting up before the old one is finshed–and never once have I said, “Hey, stop playing that game and come back here and clean up!” because I don’t think it’s such a big fucking deal.

Okay, well, that helped a bit. If I’m totally out of line, and I need to adjust my attitude, lemme know. Otherwise, I think I’ll just file this in the “Forgiven” file and move on.

I’m afraid I have no advice, but the game was Carcassonne, wasn’t it?

I was thinking it was Catan- notorious among my friends for inciting spats, fights, break-ups, etc.

Details! We need details!

It was Metro, actually. You start with all your pieces on the board, and remove them as play continues, so that you end the game with all your pieces in a little pile in front of you.

I’ve weathered many games of Catan with good humor. We find the key lies in creative alternate victory conditions. (“If I can encircle this entire hex with roads, and put a city on three corners, then in my mind, Iwill have won.”)

but do you then clean it up, in your mind? :stuck_out_tongue:

snort :smiley:

Please don’t let her name be Patty :slight_smile:

I wonder if some of your irritation with Bossy Friend is because you think that she is being mildly, pettily, rude more often than you are (and/or more often than others in your circle of friends) but you aren’t sure, and many of the situations seem to be so petty, or your own behavior isn’t always above reproach, that you feel bad about calling her on it, so she continues to be mildly, pettily, rude.

If so, my advice is simple. Be scrupulously polite.

For example, in your above story about the end of game ritual, if you had said “Is it ok if I go get water now(while you clean up) , so that I don’t delay the start of the next game?”

and she snapped, “Well, you can go get water if you want, but the game will still be here when you get back, because winner cleans up.”

It would be obvious that she was being petty and snappish and a sore loser.

As it is, you think she was being petty, snappish and a sore loser, but you aren’t sure that some of it wasn’t your fault for being too abrupt, or being a little irritable because you aren’t well or whatever.

On the other hand, if you mostly like her, despite the tendency to be a bossy little snot, suck it up, get over it, and blame your temporary desire to dwell on your greivances on your being under the weather.

For a minute I thought you were talking about me, but then I realized (a) I don’t go to a game night; and (b) I’m not generally a good loser, I’m generally a sore loser. :slight_smile:

I think that friendships, good friendships, are generally balanced. They’re never equal but they should be fair. I’d be steamed too if a someone I considered a friend was overly harsh about something trivial like that.

Have you considered telling her how you feel? Maybe she doesn’t realize the impact she has on you.

Oh I wish there was something like that near me. I adore card/board games and my hubby hates them. You mean you are in a room full of people who love games? positively green

I have a friend like that. She was pretty bad before, but now she gets to use the excuse that she’s pregnant. After todays outburst, I’m not certain how much longer folks will put up with her. She is 22, unmarried (has a skeevy boyfriend) and is going to need us. I didn’t see her coming around the corner today and closed the elevator door, she opened it and looked at me and said “F&*( YOU!” okidoki, let’s talk proportional response, or not.

I like the above suggestion, be overtly polite. Not sickingly so. Keep the sarcasm out. I also like Miss Manners “frown of doom” or whatever, express your displeasure with her by look, rather than by voice. I personally have adopted the “you are batshit crazy look of lunacy” There’s always the laugh it off to make her sound ridiculous “You know, I was trying to sneak out of here like I always do and leave you, my minions to pick up my mess. Foiled Again!” With sarcasm, the glass is always empty or full and I like both extremes. Especially dealing with less than completely sane, unstable folk.

I call that a ‘moral victory’, myself. But not outloud.

Nope, not Patty!

Campion, thing is, she normally doesn’t have that effect on me. She drives my husband straight up a wall sometimes, but I usually just roll my eyes and shrug it off. I think Eureka has it right . . . I was only dwelling on it 'cause I’m sick. :slight_smile: Very wise. Eureka also makes a good point that I was maybe a little worried that I actually had it coming—otherwise it wouldn’t have bothered me nearly as much. I’ve had a thought . . . maybe because I don’t think of cleaning up as a big deal, I do skip out on it more often than I realize. I don’t think so, but memory is a funny thing. It’ll probably be thinking about it from now on more.

I’m so sorry that you don’t have anyone to play games with, Auntbeast! We’re really lucky to have an active gaming club. I did fight snarky with sarcasm at the time . . . I said, “Well, I though that if I got water, we could start the next game sooner, but if it’s really much more important that I stay here and pick up little cardboard squares. . .” And she said, “Yes, it is more important that you pick up cardboard squares.” :rolleyes: Well, I guess if it’s really such a big deal to her . . .

Even though you can’t pick your friend’s nose,
you can pick your nose,
and you can pick your friends.