"Own that Guy in 60 Days: A Practical Guide to Love for the 21st Century Woman" Advice worth taking?

I do also. But, like men, women should be sensitive to the feedback. If the guy is not interested, pushing is as obnoxious as a guy continually hitting on a woman who shows no sign of interest.

I think that if there is a spinster or old maid, she should use any female wiles possible to land a man.

So a man writes a book telling women to throw themselves at men and sleep with them on the first date?

Ok

Either way, I’m all for women taking some of the risk in this situation. It is like online dating, women get upset because the guys they like don’t contact them. If so, then contact guys you do like. Don’t wait for us to come to you.

Surely people who want to “Own that Guy in 60 Days” are missing the most important thing:

Learn to cook!

You know, I am the type of person who likes to have a system. I’ll buy a dozen books, read through them amd come up with a coherent approach. I do it for my career, I do it for housekeeping, and when I was single and finally ready to settle down, I did it for love. I had about three months in a place where dating was not going to happen, and I used that time to read every non-ridiculous dating book I could find.

I came back home, and within two months met the man I was going to marry-- and he is amazing. The guy I married was the one guy I wasn’t really trying any particular method on. We just met and hit it off.

The moral of the story here is that I don’t think any particular “system” is going to make you “catch a man.” Men are also not video games with cheat codes. But I do think that approaching dating somewhat mindfully can have a huge impact, and that’s what is at the bottom of most dating books. It’s nothing too complicated-- keep your head screwed on straight, be aware of what it is that you are bringing in to a relationship, learn to understand when a guy really just isn’t interested in you, have some confidence, and use your dating time wisely.

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Well, if a man has sex with a woman on the first date, she’ll probably wonder … etc

I trust you “save yourself” until you have known a woman for at least ten years. Wouldn’t want to get a reputation, would you?

Haha, you could be right. :smiley: I might worry about him or his book a bit if I didn’t find it hard to believe that anyone takes those advice books seriously.

I am SO glad that’s the way your story went! :slight_smile: Had it been a case of "I consulted a book, then followed rules A,B C, and D, well, I hope I’d still be happy for you, but I’d be wondering how real it could be. (It would be quite fun if it had turned out that the man you married was in fact the bookseller who sold you all) the non-ridiculous books. :slight_smile:

If you want to make a man fall in love with you just continually feed his ego.

Also, compliment his penis.

Interestingly, you missed a couple of opportunities to use the verb “to stroke”.

What the hell would a married woman know about ensnaring a man anyways. :p:D;)

To use a soccer anology, there is a difference between forward which is good and off side. A smart gal and indeed guy knows when to be proactive and when to tone it down.

Bravo ! :smiley:

Like a rolling pin?

If he or she just wants a one-night stand, it wouldn’t. If he or she is looking for a long-term, committed relationship, or wants sex to be a meaningful act of intimacy, someone who’s had sex with a bunch of other people on short acquaintance probably isn’t the best candidate for that.

Any dating advice, for women or men, should come with the disclaimer that there is no “one size fits all” approach, and the “right” way to go about it depends on what kind of person you are and on what you’re looking for in a partner and in a relationship.

But, about the “desperate” thing: as a general rule, a man will react more favorably to indications that you really want him than that you really want a man.

If a man is the kind of sexist asshole that judges women on her previous sexual history finding out after one date that he isn’t worth it is the best possible result.

He lost me at “Women need to play it hot from day one.”

I know some people have hit it off on their first meeting, and have been married for decades. But most of us, when we first meet someone, have no idea whether we’re even interested in this person.

I’ve fallen in love four times in my life, and I don’t even remember the first time I met three of the women in question, including my wife. And the fourth one didn’t make that big of an impression on me at the time either.

So I read this advice as “go after him full-bore, before you have a clue as to whether you’d actually like him.” He’s just another shiny object to be won.

My attitude is: it’s 2015, not 1955. Women should feel free to take the initiative anytime they feel like it. But romance is at least as much a figuring out whether things will work with a person as it is a trying to win someone. Any book that treats it as just the latter is stupid, whether it’s aimed at women or men.

A book like that coming from a male writer just sounds like your ANSI-standard incorrigible male horndog who fastasizes that all females should be incorrigible horndogs too. Reminds me of Yes You May by Dr. Paul J. Gillette, 1971, which also advocated to female readers that they should be the horndogs for a change.

Doesn’t just everyone know that any male (all of them being incorrigible horndogs) can be instantly hooked by any female who will simply fuck him at the drop of a [del]dime[/del] zipper?

It’s 2015! The way to a man’s heart is through his urethra!

Although practical, unglamorous advice doesn’t bait clicks as well as sensationalistic headlines do, the key to long-term relationship success is to be yourself and hope you meet someone you like who also likes you back (this is largely luck, although you can help it along by cultivating an interesting hobby or 2 and taking care of yourself). Doing things that are out of character may snare you a partner, but they’re not going to stick around for the long haul if your natural tendencies don’t appeal to them.

That sounds like some horribly risky surgical procedure.