Persons wishing to reject me hereby requested to do it promptly

Don’t waste time with it. Don’t make dates with me and then cancel them at the last minute as way of letting me down easy. There’s nothing easy about it, it just wastes my time.

So my mother set me up with really nice woman she works with (she’s my age, not my mother’s). First mistake: listening to anything my mother says. She said this was a really nice woman who was just very shy and wouldn’t I take her out? I said, sure, whatever, I’m shy too so why doesn’t a shy person do another shy person a favor.

Second mistake: liking someone I had originally taken out only as a favor to my mother. This woman, whom we’ll call “S” because it takes too long type Slow Inefficient Muthafucka, is pretty, intelligent, extremely soft-spoken, and from what I gather, a good administrator (don’t remember exactly what she does, but I don’t know what anybody does these days). Our first date, a few months ago, didn’t go very well; it was a movie to which I arrived only after the lights in the theater went down; I missed her until afterwards, out in the lobby. The second date was about two weeks later at an Indian restaurant. The third date never happened; got delayed about a hundred times and finally cancelled. She went out of town for a few weeks and told me that was why she hadn’t returned my calls for about a month.

Third mistake: noticing when someone doesn’t return your calls. If somebody doesn’t return your calls, you’re fucked. If they don’t make any excuses, you have no idea if they are even getting your messages, or they are getting senile prematurely. If they do make excuses, you can either believe them, which causes obvious problems if they are misleading you, or you can disbelieve their excuses, which to less trust and possibly to cutting them out of your life. If I took the latter course with everyone, I would have no friends. Thus you must immediately forget every phone call you ever make.

The third and a half date was made about 10 days ago, for today. Another restaurant. This morning S cancelled it by voicemail. S said she had to cancel our “appointment” to have dinner because she was seeing someone else, and I could call her if I had “any questions”. Fourth mistake: thinking that someone who
(a) your mother says is single,
(b) appears far too shy to ever make conversation with a man, much less date one,
© has no ring on her finger, and
(d) is willing to date your, or at least make dates with you
is single. No one is single. There is always a boyfriend in Philadelphia, or an ex-boyfriend in Philadelphia that she’s still visiting and staying with regularly, or some shit like that.

Anyway, I don’t really know what to do now (Fifth mistake: writing a post so ridiculously long no one has even made it to this point). I could,
(a) not call her back, and presumably never talk to her again until I run into her for a few nervous moments at the DMV,
(b) call her back and make pleasantries and tell her everything is just fine,
© call her back and tell her I am feeling ill-used at having been strung along by her for however many months (it seems like five or six),
(d) join an ashram (sp?),
(e) add a little bit of fresh basil to the clarified butter, which when mixed with the granulated garlic will make a mouth-watering sprinkle for the pasta, or
(f) sue my mother for malpractice.

(b) seems a little like poetic justice, misleading S right back about the way I feel; it wouldn’t serve any purpose. (a) is the most likely alternative, as it would get the whole thing theoretically over with most quickly; I’ll still be bitter about the whole thing for a while, though. © gets points for assertiveness, but most people would probably consider it rude (like most things, it would have been assertive to do if you don’t do it; if you do do it, then it’s creepy or sociopathic). (d) don’t you have to wake up pretty early in those places? (e) I don’t have any fresh basil. (f) I didn’t even sue her over the St. John’s Wort, fer cryin out loud.

I don’t think I would bother calling her back at all. Her reference to your “appointment” with her says it all as well as the fact that she was rude enough to leave a voice mail rather than speak directly to you. My mom tried the old set up routine with me quite a few years back. It was her best friend’s son. Notta chance.

I say take the risk at sounding rude. She sure wasn’t polite to you! If she was seeing someone else she should have had enough balls to say so and now she should take the consiquences (spelling?) for her actions!

And remember to NEVER let your mom set you up again. It almost always turns out badly! :slight_smile:

I wouldn’t call her back either. However, strangely enough, my Mom introduced me and my hubby and we’re still disgustingly blissfully in love after 6 years of marriage… Believe it or not! :slight_smile:

Hmmm, upon farther review i’d say go with A) don’t even bother calling her back. “Appointment”, that’s the one word that means you are screwed and it’s not going anywhere and doubtful that it ever will no matter what you do. Now go with E) go out and get some fresh basil, if you really need it, i have some and can probably over-nite it to ya. :smiley:

I’d say go with C, but some women might start yelling “STALKER!” and telling your mom’s co-workers. That’s no fun.

I defer to A if C looks the way I described it.

And add an i) go home and masturbate profusely to Darva Conger’s spread.

BwaHaHa

:smiley:

-Sam

hmmmm…the next time I used that phone number would be the 10-20 large anchovy pizza order to Dominos.

…the next time I used her address would be to enter it into a subscription card for Soldier of Fortune or Recreational Vehicle World. Check the block for lifetime subscription discount.

…name and address----one word----“AMWAY”

OK OK, it’s not the high road, totally immature. Bad Pony, Bad Pony, :::smacking hoofs::: :smiley:

Nope, don’t call her, forget she exists. Too many women in the world to let one rude, inconsiderate example get to you.

Well, I suppose that’s the most consistent advice I’ve gotten in a long time. It sounds reasonable, but did I mention she owes me $2000?

Just kidding. TroubleAgain, did you have to tell us that? Come on now, play along, we’re all miserable and lonely, right? Be a team player! Seriously, though, I’m very pleased for you.

Pardon my ignorance, GaWd, but who is Darva Conger?

It’s funny, but when I told this to one of my less-sensitive male friends, he said, “Welll, looks like we’re gonna hafta git you a hooker!” That was the first time I laughed all day.

Hmmm … Soldier of Fortune … eksssssellent. I’ll have to keep that one in my reserve.

Says Boris

By the way, I’m from Philadelphia.

We have a whole bunch of guys whose job it is to circulate the country and take the women back to Philly. I, as chance would have it, was part of the Oregonian Deflowering Unit.

I officer my apologies. We’ll return the women when we’re finished with 'em.

Each woman requires her own very special plan. Don’t have much info here on her to make much of a plan. Perhaps you could see her in person where she works & tell her how thank ful you are that she didn’t show up because it gave you the time you needed to get some things done. Then watch her face & see how she responds.

(a) Do not call her. get on with your life.

Oh, and lest my responding to this post be misunderstood: I like you, but only as a friend. No matter what your mother says.

Sounds wierd but I found that you are best off if you don’t take dating too seriously.
Go out and have fun.
If she is fun to be with ask her again.
Sometimes just being friends can be just as satisfying as BF/GF.
Except for the introductions tell mom to mind her own buisness.
And don’t be so serious.

To Chief
Had to go clear to Oregon Huh

Philly, the place that loves ya back!

Oh, and Boris, DON’T CALL HER and DEFINITELY don’t go to her workplace. It’s okay that she doesn’t like you back. It’s not okay that she was rude about it. But no good can come of confronting (or in the case of a workplace visit - stalking) her about it. Move on! Move on! Move on!

I’ll agree with you that many women are very irresponsible and rather than be clear just give you the runaround but man, can’t you take a hint? She’s showing no interest in you and you keep chasing her? why? date psotponed a hundred times? why?

my rule (for guys and gals). You invite once. If the othr party cannot accept you express your regret and say you would like to find another ocassion at their convenience. That’s it. Their turn to move.

Have you considered calling in the middle of the night, and breathing heavily on the phone? Since that wasn’t one of your options, I’ll pick a).

Sure she was rude, but I can sympathize with her, it’s always difficult to have to turn someone down in person, which is why most people make up little white lies (of the kind «I’m getting back with my ex-boyfriend»). Still, rudeness on her part wouldn’t excuse bad behaviour on your part.

I would keep her phone number though, so you can call her and let her know when you’ve made your first billion.

Boris you admit you were late for the first date, and except for canceling this last date I don’t see her making anymore mistakes than you did. 10 days is a lot of time for things to change, so I don’t know why you are so upset the woman for canceling a date, even if by voicemail at the last minute. So your mother said the woman was single and you find out she is seeing an old boyfriend, since when does 3 dates constitute fidelity?

Let it go and move on.

[ideal world] Call her back and tell her that the only reason that you went out with her in the first place was because your mother begged you to. Then tell her that you only said yes when your mother offered to pay. [/ideal world].

Of your options, ‘A’ is the best. Hey, she does have your number and if she desires another “appointment” she can call you.

I have decided I’m not going to try to contact S at all. My mother will soon chide me about leaving that poor sweet shy girl all alone, and after wiping the puke off my chin I will inform her that the poor sweet shy girl is quite un-alone, thank you very much. So I suppose I will end up communicating indirectly whether I like it or not.

Well, I thought it would be clear that being late was an accident. I don’t think cancelling or stringing me along or any of that is an accident. I didn’t mean to imply that I thought she was a horrible person, but I still think it is wrong to do what she did. If she considered our plans to be dating, she shouldn’t have made those plans if she was seeing someone else. If she didn’t consider them to be dating, then she shouldn’t have cancelled with me any more than she would have cancelled with any other platonic friend.

And you’re right, 10 days might be a long time for some people. The women I know have completely different time horizons on this matter than I do, with the men I know somewhere in the middle. The women I know can plan ahead, hours or months, for their next boyfriend. I know it doesn’t make statistical sense - it’s just that I know a more shy anti-social males and a lot more gregarious attractive females.

(Actually, I don’t know if she’s actually seeing an old boyfriend. S just said she was seeing someone and I went into a fugue about a previous non-relationship and Philadelphia. She could have been making the guy up as another excuse for all I know.)

If it’s that simple for you, congratulations.

Sailor said,

That would be devastating to my social life if applied consistently. The level of interest she showed (faked?) was no lower than that of any other person I’m not related to by blood. People simply don’t show much interest in me, not that I notice anyway. My last girlfriend seemed extremely cool to me before the first kiss, which she always thought was very funny since in her mind she had been blatantly hot for me.

S had some pretty good excuses for her not talking to me, like being out of town for part of the time. I didn’t really know if she considered spending time with me to be dating. Now I know that she did.

Gleaning the difference between the Get The Hell Out Of My Face shy smile and the You’re The Man Of My Dreams shy smile is way beyond me. Ditto for the My Passion For You Makes Me So Giddy That I Simply Have To Break Off The Night’s Activities cancellation versus the Damn I Made This Date To Save Your Feelings But Now I’m In A Less Altruistic Mood cancellation. If you can understand women’s hints, congratulations, your powers are far beyond those of mortal men.

Something just occurred to me. I have no idea if she is heterosexual. She said she was “seeing someone else”; she didn’t specify the gender. This would explain why mother, whose gaydar is worse than my own, would constantly be talking about how her lack of a boyfriend means she is single.