This Hags doper thread seems to have turned into a community bonding thing for the women and some men, so that makes it worthwhile, but I don’t think it is right to use it as a tool to hurt me.
Several women are taking glee in digging me or outright using me as an object of derision. Well I am not a dead thread or a new term that a nice little rhyme should be written about because it is cute. I am a human being who already admits to no life, and no prospects for a life so why do you want to pour salt in my wounds and make my life even worse? I said some things in anger. Tried to retract them, reacted in anger again when my attempts to rectify things were teased. But I am a human being sitting alone in my living room watching tv and feeling the world caving in around me. I am not an object to be derided.
Please stop. Please. I know I said some hurtful things to several of you men and women and I am sorry. I am a smartass and it is hard for me to be humble and contrite for very long. But I am a human being. Please stop hurting me. Please!
Iswote, the Hags thing isn’t aimed at you at all. Safe to say the genesis and momentum didn’t even think of you. It’s just part of the give-and-take of this place.
You’re relatively new–no slam!–so maybe you don’t understand the context going. It would take a few months to read the archives of this place, but honestly, the whole thread is mostly a bunch of women poking fun at themselves.
It has nothing to do with you. That isn’t meant to be mean, it’s just honest. Some of the people here are women; some are men. The joking goes back and forth. Most of it is blessedly “nonpersonal”; not “impersonal” because all genders join in the BS. It’s a free-for-all buzz session.
Honestly, Iswote, you might want to take a break from this place. That’s not rejection, just observation. It’s a big honkin’ bunch of people who are going on with their usual lives and BS fun. It isn’t aimed at you.
Iswote, I’ve been on the SDMB (AOL and here) for 2 1/2 years. Trust me when I say people on this board aren’t taking swipes at you. Of course, there are our fair share of assholes around here, but they are easily ignored.
I liked what you had to say in your thread about what a woman is looking for. It shows you have an honest desire to learn about we Venusians. There were the few token assholes who took a cheap shot, but their opinions aren’t exactly respected and like I said: easily ignored. I have no idea how the “hag” thread relates to you–so I can assure you that my posting to it has nothing, and do I mean nothing, to do with you.
Lurk for a while. Learn our personalities. I do hope that then you’ll see we aren’t an attacking lynchmob, but just a bunch of people who like to play. Hang in there, bud.
TVeblen, you are wrong. Green Bean started the thread quoting something I said in a thread in the pit. Other women are writing about how they qualify for the group because they insulted or were insulted by me. Another even wrote a litte poem about what a putz I am. This is about me and I would like it to stop please.
Whoops, just caught up on the post you’re referring to, Iswote. Sorry, it grew while I was off doin’ other things.
Yep, you are right; it referred to you personally and directly. My response was based on out-of-date info.
I don’t know what to suggest to you, Iswote. This is both a really big and small village. Seems like everyone knows everyone’s business–but there are also a lot of other villages out there.
Ya pissed in your chili and ticked people off. FWIW, so did I at first off, so has Wally, so has Coldfire, etc. It happens; just depends on what you want to do with it. This place is basically kind, in a very rough-and-tumble way.
lswote, I have been tangled up with a few people before. Especially in The Pit. But you know what? The second I stopped responding, the whole thing stopped. Just let it go. This place has a very short memory, and there is always somebody new to flame, always a new thread to pick apart. Just let it go.
Wait, stop telling lswote that he isnt’ getting it. I see he just posted to this thread, saying pretty much what I was going to. Green Bean’s OP gave an uncited quote. Shayna referenced another quote, again uncited, but stated it was from the same person.
I think it is reasonable for lswote to feel he is being addressed a bit. While I had no clue who the quote was from until lswote spoke up and ID’d himself, still I can see why he would feel that way.
Though lswote, chiming in with a return jab in that thread was not the most tactful thing to do. If you’re trying to apologize, don’t add fuel to the fire. The next comments (like the poem) were in response to your remark in that thread.
Look, I don’t know if lswote has earned the scorn of everyone on the board. From the comments of those who’ve posted here, it appears most of you are as clueless as I was on lswote’s role in the matter. What do you say we keep the hags thread rolling for the MPSIMS fun, but quit referring to the previous apologized for remarks. Let that part drop.
All of this is yet another object lesson on why I avoid the PIT. Too easy for things to get out of hand, tempers to flair and comments to be taken to heart, and feelings irreparably hurt. We’ve all witnessed episodes on this board where people were unable to get past previous confrontations, and it had dire consequences. To me it isn’t worth it.
When you post things saying about how we’re all “ugly hags on the rag at the same time,” we’re going to comment on it, whether or not you already apologized ten thousand times. And you know what? You sitting here whining about how we’re hurting you now doesn’t erase the asinine things you said about us before now. What goes around comes around, lswote, so stop the passive-aggressive bullshit, eh? It’s not making me like you, it’s making me think you’re a dickless putz. So put up or shut up, cock-knocker. I’ll be damned if I see another whiny bullshit thread about how we’re all treating you bad, five minutes after I read some rude comment directed at us, too.
lswote - I take back what I said about there being hope for you. You are a professional victim - everyone dumps on you, everything that ever happens to you is bad, nothing is your fault and you can’t understand why your life is so terrible. There’s always a reason why you can’t be any happier, and it’s always something you just can’t control. Well, I’ve seen this in other people. I got news for you, you’re wrong, you could change things if you wanted to, but your life is just the way you want it to be. You are happy as a clam that everyone is dumping on you. It proves your world view & you are getting attention for it. And I don’t care. I could tell you what you can do, but you won’t take my advice & you’re not worth the effort anyway. I will tell you what your life is going to be like:
No real friends
The friends you have will be users, scam artists and other professional victims.
Any love interests will abandon you, probably in a dramatic way (wipe out your bank account to run away with a lover, or become lesbian)
Escalating work problems
Escalating physical problems (The mind does play a role in healing - therefore it will also play a role in not healing)
Have fun.
Oh, and btw - when you call the women of this board hags, and then say “Oh, I really didn’t mean it”, that is NOT an apology.
And when, after you “apologized” you state
which was made before you started this thread, I’m not going to believe any apology you might have to say, and I just want you to get the fuck off our board.
Irishman - I wasn’t aware that cites were required when quoting from other threads on the board, since anyone can go to the other thread and verify what was stated & the context. The thread in the pit has apparently been deleted; however, I recommend anyone reading this thread to go here first: I learned an expensive lesson yesterday where you can see Shayna being friendly and supportive, and lswote insulting her.
I don’t have any brave faces left. And I don’t care if ladies love humor, I am not trying out a comedy act. They should be people first. I had a grievance with one person and stated it in the pit because that is what I thought I was supposed to do. If you read the damn message board front page with all the forum descriptions, it says that the pit is there for complaints. What’s more when the person actually weighed in and addressed the issue directly I requested the corresponding threads be deleted or closed and they were.
I didn’t say anything bad to a single person who is now bad mouthing me that first didn’t either say something bad to me or made me feel they were condescending to me to correct my poor behaviour.
People are just being mean, plain mean. Please stop.
lswote, darlin’, you’re missing the point. By continually starting threads telling everyone else how mean they are, you’re inviting them to be even more mean. If what you say is true (not that I think that for a minute), why on earth would you continue to paint a huge whopping bull’s-eye on your chest? Seriously, are you some sort of masochist? That’s the only explanation I can come up with here.
I and a couple others (whose names escape me at the moment) told you what you’d need to do if you want all this to go away: you have to drop it first. I’ve read the threads, and sorry to say you started all of this. And you keep perpetuating it. Just walk away from it, and (repeating myself) don’t post any personal stuff for a while. If someone takes a shot at you, rise above it. That is the only way you’re going to get it to stop.
Regarding your grievance with ultress and the Pit thread… is that or is that not the thread where you called all those who responded to you in your earlier thread “hags”, which (as I recall) had precious little to do with your erroneous inference that ultress called you a liar?
Jezebel I agree that I said the hags reference in the thread in the pit, but I didn’t say it unprovoked. My dispute was only with one person but others said unflattering things about me and I reacted. But that was the pit, not MPSIMS. So what is it doing in MPSIMS now?
Perhaps I should have just emailed the person I had a dispute with and settled it more directly, but I didn’t think that was proper ettiquette.
For a group of people who value reason, name calling seems to come pretty easy.
Good Gawd - not again!
You are bannished, banned, ignored for I personally will not read your sniveling messages any more. Satisfied? Enough is enough already. Message board administrator Eutychus55? referree? ump? Daddy? Help!
Damn, Lswote. I generally like your posts. I think you have something to offer here. But I don’t know what’s gotten into your head the last couple of days.
What exactly do you hope to accomplish by posting a thread called “Please Stop Hurting Me?” You’re starting to act like some weird new troll species. Because that’s the kind of comment that is designed to received mocking responses in reply. And anybody with a clue who has been on this board for a few days would realize that.
Could you wear a bigger “Kick Me” sign taped to your back?
Take your own advice.
You also said:
Well, this board has helped me through some lonely times, too. But to think that you can get therapy or find the answers here to whatever is going wrong IRL is truly sick and wrong.
Drop it. Let it cool. And go see a therapist (or go to an online dating site, whichever service you feel you more strongly need).
So you’re saying that if a bunch of people in the Pit flame you (justifiably or not) the proper response is to insult a bunch of people who posted to a thread in MPSIMS (most of whom had not flamed you, many of whom might not have even read the flames in question, some of whom never even visit the Pit, some of whom might previously have been sympathetic to you before you insulted them)?
And I’d have to agree that “I didn’t really mean it” isn’t an apology.
You notice how you continue to respond to this thread and the hags thread? You keep feeding fuel to the fire! Stop it! You want it to stop? Go, lurk for awhile. I’ll bet you if you just stop responding, in less then 48 hours all of this will die down.
I realize you think you need to defend yourself to all these people. But you don’t. You are just provoking them to continue. Let it go!
There were the few token assholes who took a cheap shot, but their opinions aren’t exactly respected and like I said: easily ignored. I have no idea how the “hag” thread relates to you–so I can assure you that my posting to it has nothing, and do I mean nothing, to do with you.