A friend of mine lost their father to COVID but her mother wanted to keep it all very hush, hush. He was a COVID denier as were most of his friends and it was embarrassing to die from it given their political leanings. I read an article about families keeping COVID deaths on the down low. The last time I remember a shameful disease family members kept secret was back when AIDS was the big, scary illness.
Were they all telling the truth, then? Or perhaps some were lying, some were telling the truth, some had no fucking idea…and you remembered what supported your own beliefs.
The narrative supported by the most facts, perhaps. Believing something that is unpopular is the real deal just because it is unpopular is not the smart way to go usually.
I’ve been misinformed more than once by actual medical persons who’ve purported to want to help me.
The only thing I can say is protect yourself the best you can. Mask, vax, wash hands more than you’d believe, and stay away from as many unknowns as you can. Nothing is perfect.
I’m kinda phobic about it. I know.
No, I try to look at evidence and then figure it out. I don’t have Set beliefs about this; we can’t blindly believe everything.
Anthony Fauci? /s
Over the last 4 years: I’ve had confirmed Covid once, a cold almost as bad but multiple negative home Covid tests, a bunch of sniffly episodes that never tested positive, and an unknown number of times when I had no symptoms and no tests.
Fully vaxxed.
We do not have built in diagnostics unfortunately, but I think the estimates are that 80% of Canadians have had it at least once.
This. I was in a working group about a year ago and most of us got Covid. One member was hit really hard (not quite hospital hard though) and could only participate by phone from home for about an hour each day before he was completely drained. The other three or four of us were in the like a very mild but annoying cold situation for a few days.
I don’t know about the other members of the group but I’m as vaxxed as allowed and available.
And partly because the variants that are more prevalent recently tend, on average, to be milder than those we started out with? That was what I thought; am I wrong about that?
Not every vaccine naive person who has exposure will become clinically ill. People have immune systems. Someone coughs on the bus. Someone who was never vaccinated inhales a droplet of fluid from the cougher, but it just so happens that the single droplet dose not contain the Minimal Infectious Dose for disease.
The person on the bus never develops illness. Indeed, they may have just been “vaccinated” with live virus!
Snopes, is it true you can identify “superdodgers” from their skill at playing Frogger?
(Presumably essentially 100% of Canadians were exposed to Covid, and 85% were said to have had it. Proving 15% of people are “good at Frogger”.)
Either your anti-vax friends are lying (or misinformed), or the scientists who tracked the disease for years don’t know what the hell they’re talking about.
If all your unvaxxed friends who “never got sick” all got tested for Covid antibodies, how many of them do you think come out clean?
I don’t care what odds you’re offering, I’m putting my money on “most of them had covid at one point or another”.
It’s the old “anecdote v. evidence” issue that seems to plague the … not so sophisticated thinkers. It doesn’t really matter if Suntan is mistaken, lied to, or lacking in actual evidence. Suntan has the power of anecdote, so they’re right. In their mind. And only their mind.
Except I didn’t say I was right. I asked a question, unsophisticatedly.
You stated that they never got sick, and asked why they never got sick.
The answer is that they did actually get sick. No need to discuss lying or any other motivation, they got sick.
Since antibodies wane with time, they may not have detectable antibodies. What would be required is that they act like empathetic human beings and get tested so that they don’t pass it along to other people.
Well people can’t pass it along, so why were healthy people quarantinned( sp). Don’t need an answer, just thinking.
When I think, I usually accept answers from those who have done research on the subject I am thinking about.
But maybe that’s just me.
If you’re going to think, then a good place to start is with true premises. When you start with false premises, you can end up at any old random conclusion at all.
Huh?
People certainly can pass it along.
And healthy people were quarantined because there was no way to tell who was healthy. Not only can asymptomatic people transmit it, but so can people who will have symptoms but aren’t showing any yet. The transmission rate may be somewhat lower than among the actively symptomatic, but it’s nowhere near zero.
I’m one of the folk who has never had COVID. I know this for certain because I test routinely at least once a week, and have performed my own PCR tests in my own lab. I am HIGHLY vaxxed (every 4 months or so). For at least 3 years I was masked whenever I was in public. Now I’m only masked if I am in a crowded indoor space or on an airplane.
I do not intend to ever get COVID.