Rudy Giuliani in critical condition in Florida hospital [Now in the BBQ Pit]

“My name is ricepad, and I endorse this message.”

I laughed.

Healing magic doesn’t work on undead, therefore Trump can’t use divine healing on Ghouliani.

God DAMMIT!

I would still hold a mirror up to his nose to see if he is actually breathing, and not just going through the motions.

No, but necromancy can work on undead, and who has a more romantic neck than Trump?

On the one hand, he did perform admirably on 9/11.

On the other hand, he instantly pissed away whatever credit he deserves for that, when he started denying that 9/11 ever happened.

I guess that Rudy won’t be joining the ranks of the good republicans any time soon. Shucks.

I don’t think Rudy did anything after 9/11 that any other mayor wouldn’t have done. People kept saying how wonderful he was on 9/11- for what, exactly?

Well, the commander of the 779th Dental Squadron summarized Giuliani’s role thusly:

https://www.jba.af.mil/News/Commentaries/Display/Article/338041/mayor-shows-exemplary-leadership-during-911/

There are naysayers over at the Wikipedia entry on the subject.

Rudy Giuliani during the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia.

From the estate. The estate is still an active entity until it is settled in full. Some jurisdictions require the executor of the estate to put a notice in a newspaper or some such place informing any potential creditors that they have a certain amount of time to make a claim on the estate.

Credit card debt must be paid out of the estate funds. Any outstanding loans must be paid. The executor handles this.

I suppose if there is not enough money when all assets of the estate are liquidated, then the creditors have to fight it out. The executor is then responsible for fair and equitable distribution.

ONLY after all debts are paid, then if there are people who stand to inherit, they get their share.

A minor quibble clarification: thanks to the Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act of 1982, a lender cannot enforce a due-on-sale clause if the property in question is inherited by a relative (it’s a tad more nuanced, but that’s the gist). It’s true that the loan must be repaid, but settling the estate does not depend on it —* the heir assumes responsibility for the payments, and the loan continues under his/her name.

* Em dash alert: I must be a bot!

Meh. So he went to the site. Anyone else would have. So he portrayed optimism. Big deal, it’s what anyone would have done. What most people wouldn’t have done would be patting themselves on the back for 25 years since then. He’s like the kid who won a football game for his high school 25 years ago and won’t stop talking about it.

His ear healed up nicely. Now he needs to do something about that rope burn.

Bwhuuuh?

At a guess, @chronos is referring to this incident:

https://www.npr.org/2016/08/16/490200895/rudy-giuliani-claims-no-terror-attacks-in-u-s-pre-obama

Rudolph Giuliani appeared to forget the terrorist attack on Sept. 11, 2001, while warming up a crowd for Donald Trump’s foreign policy speech on Monday.

“By the way,” Giuliani said, “under those eight years, before Obama came along, we didn’t have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the United States. They all started when Clinton and Obama got into office.”

Ok, a person dies and creditors can go after their estate.

PSA: Sometimes creditors try to go beyond that and ask relatives if they can, “Help out” after the deceased’s death. Credit card creditors for example. Employed by Bank of America for example. Cite:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/how-theresa-hatt-caused-the-financial-crisis-2

Paul Kelleher: Yes, I’m calling to inform you that my mom died on the 24th of January.

Bank of America Estates representative: I’m sorry. Oh, it looks like she never even missed a payment. That’s too bad. Well, how are you planning to take care of her balance?

PK: I’m not going to. She has no estate to speak of, but you should feel free to just go through the standard probate procedure. I’m certainly not legally obligated to pay for her.

BOA: You mean you’re not going to help her out?

PK: I wouldn’t be helping her out — she’s dead. I’d be helping you out.

BOA: Oh, that’s really not the way to look at it. I know that if it were my mother, I’d pay it. That’s why we’re in the banking crisis we’re in: banks having to write off defaulted loans.

“I lost it there,” Kelleher, a mild-mannered 30-year-old who lives in Brookline, Mass., where he works remotely for a Washington DC-based non-profit, told TPMMuckraker. When pressed, he said, the estates rep backed off that last claim, but only a little, continuing to suggest that cases like his mothers had played a role in the financial crisis.

The rep’s apparent intention, as Kelleher described it, was to mislead him into believing that he was obligated — at first legally, then, failing that, morally — to cover his mother’s debt (which, in any case, was not large: she had had a $1000 limit on her card). Of course, Kelleher was sophisticated enough to know that’s not true. But how many other less savvy callers in similar situations, he wondered, might respond to the rep’s breezy “how are you planning to take care of her balance?,” with a confused “I guess I’ll mail in a check”?

And what bothered Kelleher as much as the estate rep’s insensitivity, not to mention her apparent effort to deceive, was the impression he got that she wasn’t winging it.

“It seemed rote,” Kelleher said. “It was too naturally delivered to have been a misstatement.”

The Grim Reaper wanted to get drunk but not THAT drunk.

My experience with American Express was exactly the opposite. I was the sole heir and executor when my mother died, and one of my tasks was sorting out her routine bills, paying things off as needed, stopping automatic payments, etc.

When I called Amex to say, “my mother died, please cancel her card, and how can I pay the outstanding balance on her bill?” they were awesome. Basically: “So sorry about your loss. We just cancelled her card, and wrote off her outstanding payment, so no worries there.”

It wasn’t a lot of money, all things considered - I forget how much (this happened in 20213) - maybe, I dunno, $200 or so? But I really, really, REALLY appreciated it.

But it’s not their estate any more, is it? They don’t exist, and people who don’t exist can’t have assets. The estate belongs to someone else who is NOT the person who died, and this someone else is the one who has to pay the debts. The person who died died without them paying back their debts. THEY got away scot free.

As far as the debtors are concerned, there’s no difference between the dead person and their estate - but it’s all the difference in the world to the actual dead person.