Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1)

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ninja’d by WE?

Comparative ranks:

NATO equivalent / Russian Federation / United States

OF-7 / Lieutenant general / Brigadier General
OF-6 / Major general / Colonel

So, in US Army terms, only one general has perished. :frowning_face:

That’s not really accurate. O-6 and OF-6 are pay grades and don’t indicate if they’re Generals. You would have to look at what a Russian Major General typically commands to see if it compares to Colonel or Brigadier.

But at this point, would it be better in another thread?

Wiki at least does say their Major General is equivalent to a British brigadier or an American brigadier general.[3]

Okay, five dead Russian generals it is then. :heart_eyes:

Anyone know how long the new cosmonauts will be on the space station?

Their reception when they return could be dangerous. Will the space capsule immediately fall into the Russian’s territory?

I believe they land in Kazakhstan. In fact, their families were probably there for the launch. I wonder if they plan on returning to Russia.

The issue is not where the space capsule will land but whence it will depart. ROSKOSMOS is based in Moscow and is responsible for managing transport service to the ISS, and I might be mistaken, but I think the station does not have a bunch of Soyuz capsules attached to it: there are a lot of cosmonauts in the image and nowhere near the required capacity up there to get them all back to earth. Unless SpaceX or Blue Horizons or Virgin Galactic or the ESA can help them, they are stuck in orbit until Russia decides to send a ride or they starve to death.

The Russians would NEVER give Elon the satisfaction of riding in on launching his white steed Dragon capsule to the rescue of their brave Cosmonauts.

Although after the blue/yellow suits thing…

ISS always has a ride home for everyone on board. Standard procedure is that the capsule you go up on is docked for the duration of your stay, and you ride back on it.

Kind of like NASA is based in Houston. The spacecraft launch and land elsewhere. In Roskosmos’ case, in a different country closer to the equator.

ignorance fought

This doesn’t really make sense. A Russian Major General has the same general level of responsibility as a brigadier general. Typically one in combat arms would command a brigade.

Russia does have just colonels, who are equivalent to our colonels.

Russian unit sizes may not be comparable, though:

This is going to be so ugly, for so long.

I’ve seen a lot of that, too, over the past week, on Reddit in general, not just from Ukrainians. The view is, the conscripts could have been tricked into the initial attack, and even beyond that, could not be blamed more than the average soldier for taking orders to fight for a bad cause. But now with the emphasis on indiscriminate attacks on civilian areas, the view seems to be shifting toward they have to know the atrocities they’re being told to commit and so even if they are not participating are to blame for them. I don’t quite buy that myself, because they don’t have the choice between fighting, simply going home, or overthrowing their government: they have a choice between fighting or being jailed or executed (unless they can arrange a surrender without getting themselves killed in the process.) The same goes for the average Russian, who also doesn’t have the power to singlehandedly stop the war.

That said, at this point if the average Ukrainian is a bit irrational in their anger it’s not a mystery why they feel that way.

A bit of an update:

Russia has used hypersonic missiles in combat now.

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I’m starting to see claims that Mariupol has fallen. Not confirmed. It has been under constant bombardment and bodies are being left in the streets because it’s too dangerous to recover them. The same sources claiming the city has fallen also are saying the civilians surviving are being rounded up and taken to Russia.

This is not getting any better.

Mariupol has definitely not fallen. Fighting is ongoing.

That is… sort of a relief.

Latest campaign assessment from the Institute for the Study of War: