Flagship of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet
I hope this is true. It would mean major Russian weapons platforms don’t even need to be attacked — wait a bit and they self-destruct.
So to the Russian mindset, admitting to incompetence is better than acknowledging Ukrainian competence?
Do I have that right?
So, the Ukrainians will need a new stamp showing the soldier giving the one-finger salute to a bow and stern sinking into the water, right??
Is the Moskva the most significant warship lost in war since WWII?
The only similar ship I can think of is the Argentine light cruiser ARA General Belgrano, first commissioned by the U.S. as USS Phoenix, which was sunk in the Falklands War of 1982.
ARA General Belgrano
Displacement: 9,575 tons (empty) 12,242 (full load)
Length: 185.4 m (608.3 ft)
Complement: 1,138 officers and men
Russian cruiser Moskva
Displacement: 12,490 tons
Length: 186.4 m (611.5 ft)
Complement: 480
While my heart sings for Ukraine, as a Navy veteran who has experienced at sea emergencies, I can’t help but empathize with the utter terror those sailors must have felt. Some of them likely lived even as their ship sank, possibly even surviving minutes or more in air pockets throughout the ship. Just an utterly terrifying way to die.
Yes, warships are dangerous places to work, even in peacetime. There are innumerable ways to eff up and die and/or kill your shipmates.
I’ve seen unsubstantiated reports that the crew evacuated because of the threat of ammunition detonation, so there may not necessarily have been loss of life.
That video of the ship cook discovered in an air pocket in a shipwreck after three days is incredible!
Are you talking about this guy? 
No where in that article does it say Putin declared war on the US. Horrible click bait headline.
Also— didnt the Russians say hours ago that that ship was evacuated? So why would someone speculate on a large death toll?
Has anyone confirmed it has sank? If not, it hasn’t sank.
Word of the sinking of the ship seems to be stemming from Russian social media: that a Bayraktar drone was used as a decoy to distract the ship’s anti-air capabilities, while Neptune missiles struck the port side of the ship; this caused the ship to roll, the crew evacuated and the ship sank in the rough weather conditions. That’s the rumor.
If the ship was either on fire or listing to such a level that the crew evacuated, then it doesn’t sound very salvageable to me, particularly in the rough weather, but I’m not a man of the sea.
Russian social media? Not Ukrainian?
Yes, Russian.
The Russian source says (translated by Google):
Roskosmos is Russia’s space program agency.
Who draws the short straw and gets to tell Vlady?
There will be a Russian response. Maybe missle strikes against Kyiv?
Russia has already destroyed so much in Ukraine. A ship that’s shelling the coastline is certainly a legitimate target.
IIUC, the Russian fleet that is in the Black Sea is pretty much alone there now, right? I heard that Turkey has closed the straits, so there should be no more Russian ships coming in from the north. Granted, Russia has coastline and ports east of Ukraine, as well as Crimea more or less, so the ships already there should have access to resupply.
Yes, the Bosporus is now closed to military vessels due to the Montreux Convention. Under the rules, ships are only allowed to enter the Black Sea from the Mediterranean if they are returning to their home base, and I’m not sure if Russia has ships left that qualify. In February, Turkey denied three of four Russian warships entrance to the Black Sea, as three did not have home bases there. So Russia may not be able to bring any warships from elsewhere to the conflict for the course of the war.
Well, that wouldn’t be new. You’d hardly notice more efforts to kill civilians.