They should point out that refugee status doesn’t grant citizenship and any Russian who doesn’t like it will be sent packing.
Citizenship is a different issue than a right to enter as a refugee.
Isn’t someone fleeing their country to save their skin literally the definition of a refugee?
Pretty much. And yes, maybe it wasn’t courageous to worry about the war in Ukraine when it just meant you had trouble getting consumer goods, but now that you or yours are facing a draft, the mind has been concentrated.
but the basic question is: “will the government come after me for my political / religious / ethnic position?” If so, there’s a good chance you’re a refugee.
What’s your point? A refugee isn’t a grant of status beyond visitor.
Yeah, the Russian people should not be seen as the enemy here. That just leads towards hatred and petty reprisals. It’s the Russian leadership that is the problem. I don’t care if it is purely selfish - every Russian that wants out from under that particular regime should be given the option of fleeing.
It also doesn’t make them a friend. We have no idea who someone is by way of a petition for sanctuary. It should not be an open invitation to citizenship. They need to earn that status.
I have no particular opinion on that at all. I’m just opposed to sealing the borders so they can’t get out at all, whether it is for a month or potentially a lifetime if they do become citizens of another state somehow.
I was initially responding to the suggestion by Al128 that the EU should close their borders to all Russians. Doing so would be contrary to the International Convention on Refugees.
I have no idea why you brought citizenship into the discussion, since it’s completely irrelevant to refugee status.
It’s relevant when you are engaging military resources against Russia in a proxy war.
Substitute “Russians” for “Jews” and “Putin” for “Hitler” and see if this argument doesn’t sound familiar.
Even if the wording in THIS article frames it in a very questionable form, … here are some hard numbers
For starters, support for the Kremlin’s so-called special military operation in Ukraine is not necessarily wholehearted. In August, less than half of survey respondents (46%) reported that they “definitely support” the Russian military’s activities, with 30% saying that they “mostly support” it (figures that have barely changed since April).
So, 76% of russians mostly or definitely support the war … so spinning it as a “It’s Putin’s war, not the russian’s” does not reflect reality … THE POPULACE in Russia is def. a part of the problem!
Poorly indeed. But Canada has always been one of the United States’ closest allies.
I thought the average Russian in the street saw NATO as the enemy. Why run to the enemy instead of a close ally like Belarus?
It doesn’t sound familiar because Putin isn’t exterminating Russians. He’s at war with Ukraine.
Well that would be downright logical.
somewhat more ON topic:
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but also…
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What a mess. Forcing Ukrainians to fight their own forces.
Washington Post Article covers the referendum and Russian mobilization.
Cite MSN
Except when you invaded us in 1775, and again in 1812, and Patriots invaded in 1838, and Fenians invaded in 1866, and in 1870…
Nope. If refugee status is recognised in the new country, it confers a right of residency. The receiving country cannot expel the refugee and is generally required to provide a path to naturalization.
Your analogy is fucking disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. Putin isn’t trying to eliminate Russians from the planet and there isn’t a chance that a Jewish refugee could have been a sleeper agent for the Nazis.
And don’t even thing of goysplaining to my why I shouldn’t be disgusted by this.