Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1)

It is a war crime to put POWs on TV like this.

Not sure if anyone will be interested in this video, but it goes into some of the logistics issues Russia has been and continues to have. Logistics is really boring to most folks, and there are a bunch of really in-depth videos on this, but this one is more for a mainstream audience. I don’t always agree with this channel, but they do good videos from time to time.

Anyway, here it is (really, this is just an excuse for me to try and embed a video in a post :stuck_out_tongue: ):

The Failed Logistics of Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine - YouTube

This channel is really good at making logistics videos. Highly recommend.

Yes…

This guy thinks that it is a minor crime, at best:

The captured Russian soldiers, and any Ukrainians captured by the Russians, were entitled to humane treatment and protections under the law of war and the Geneva Conventions, said Gary Solis, a Vietnam veteran, retired Marine judge advocate general and author of the book, “The Law of Armed Conflict.”

“It’s a violation” of Geneva to post the videos, but not what would be considered a “grave breach” to be taken up by a war crimes tribunal in The Hague, Solis said.

The is also the question of whether it is a crime if the soldiers consented. The Red Cross allegedly takes a dim view toward consent claims:

There may be a claim that these POWs volunteered to make such statements. For example, the media may claim that it was given access to these soldiers who agreed to be interviewed. The Red Cross has always been leery of such consent claims when a combatant is being held. Moreover, one article suggests that the government was behind the display, noting “Ukraine on Wednesday invited the worried mothers of Russian troops captured on the battlefield to come and collect their sons.”

However, that’s likely a practical response to the likelihood that consent can be under duress, and hard to prove after the fact. Still, if it were brought to a tribunal, and the soldiers in question gave a consistent report that the filming was voluntary and not under any duress, it’s hard to imagine that any violation would be found.

It is. And I bet that if/when Russia wins, they will go after the folks who did these war crimes to, probably too much public fanfare.

I was watching a report earlier that was saying that the Russians were deliberately targeting artillery strikes on places civilians are trying to evacuate through. I think that’s a war crime as well, but I’m fairly sure the Russians aren’t going to do anything about that.

Two wrongs don’t make a right. I’m sure there will be a lot of war crimes coming out of this travesty.

I was thinking of all the flearthers who use video artifacts from ISS to prove they’re actors on a soundstage somewhere. Let’s not go there.

Not if it’s voluntary. Then it’s freedom of speech. Considering the war itself is a war crime I can’t begin to see your point on his.

UK Defence Intelligence update:

According to the original Russian plans, Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Mariupol were to be occupied in the first 3-4 days.

None of them has been occupied yet, and the Russians are still bombarding them at long range rather than attacking them directly.

Some interesting thoughts from an ex British army officer, especially about the Russian air force:

Since the United States has 21 Fulcrums of its own, why doesn’t it donate them to Ukraine?

Official Ukrainian figures of Russian losses.

The number of planes and helicopters shot down has increased a lot recently. 5 planes and 8 helicopters shot down in the last 24 hours.

A group of Russian soldiers take elevator to roof of Ukainian office building. Building administrators cut power, trapping them in elevator.

Photo appears to show 10 soldiers trapped in elevator.

Just five. The back wall is a mirror :slight_smile: .

Only if they’re coerced.

Which is why there is so much on-line discussion if this is real or fake and whether or not these guys are doing this willingly or were forced. Which, at one point, the guy in the middle even mentions.

As war crimes go, putting POWs on TV is barely a war misdemeanor.

I see upthread some concern about how this war will affect Macdonalds. I wonder whether it has had any impact on ordinary Americans?

On this side of the Atlantic, we are already seeing energy prices going through the roof. Petrol is over £1.50 a litre; household energy costs are expected to double.

Well, sure - if you practice a lot with a weapon your aim gets better.

Impact over here is relatively minor, which you might expect given that we are further away and so much less dependent on Russia petroleum and natural gas.

That said - our gas/petrol prices are rising. If I recall correctly, before the war started petrol in my area was $2.45/gallon. That is (if I did the conversion correctly), around the equivalent of £0.49/liter or €0.59/liters. Yesterday when I topped off the tank in my car it was £0.79 or €0.96 ($3.99/gallon) So while it’s certainly not as much as yours there has been a very noticeable jump in price over here, too. Our prices are expected to continue rising.

Gas prices do vary a lot over the US, less expensive in rural areas, much more expensive in big cities. There are parts of California where, apparently, gas is now around $6.00/gallon £1.19/liter €1.44/liter

My area is usually near the US average, give or take a few cents.

I expect food prices will also start rising given how much agricultural output Ukraine has in a normal year, especially in grains and cooking oils.