Gather round, boys and girls, while Aunt Jez tells a bedtime story for the newbies and the new-to-this-topic/exchange…
On another message board, I’ve had a bit of a problem with one particular contributor. He has (well, had, till I totally lost my cool with him) been “stalking” me, so to speak, by following me around that board and posting the most offensive “interpretations” of what he thought I said. I let it go for a while, figuring he’d eventually drop it. He didn’t. I tried to sort it privately via email. Waste of time. It got worse and worse and worse till finally one day I just lost it and shredded him as politely as I could.
Well, immediately I got called on for what was perceived to be an overreaction to a fairly innocuous post, and taking it by itself, that was a fair assessment. However, those who’d been there long enough and had hung out on the same threads that I did knew the story and felt that I was quite gentle with him, considering what I’d had to put up with.
The moral of the story? Unless you’ve seen all the posts, you can’t know the history between two people.
I’m sorry - there seems to be a misunderstanding. bj0rn referred to “green beans post” and I was immediately reminded of a post in this thread where I mistakenly assumed sarcasm. It was a post by kaylasdad99, however, but I thought bj0rn was referring to the same post (maybe he was, and he just mixed up the names). Your thread on bj0rn is genuine, I am certain of that.
CalifBoomer: you’ve got a long way to go before you are going to be able to speak Dutch, that much is certain. For those who are interested: with completely fucked up syntax, CalifBarfer says “van jou moeder zuigen ezel penis”. Literally, this means “of you mother suck donkey penis”.
I am so insulted. I’m gonna sit here in the corner and cry for a bit.
What a loser.
Defect borg: “Refutile is sistance. Your ass will be simulated”.
WallyM7 on Coldfire: "Yeah, he knows a little about everything because they have a good prison library."
oh, im terribly sorry. thats true coldfire, i got the posters mixed up in my memory(i guess i should have checked). but no harm done hopefully…
my apologies to green bean, kaylasdad99 and coldfire for the mix up(and everybody else who had to read the mix up).
anyway, alot has been said and i really havent got a clue where to start. in order to make this post shorter i am not going to quote.
rousseau: that would be an incorrect usage of sarcasm from the readers half.
if i were to say now that every post i have made previously in this thread contained sarcasm, that would be a wrong usage of sarcasm on my behalf. i did belive you knew the right usage of sarcasm and therefore could imagine how it can be used incorrectly.(my mistake)
green bean: i did not belive your post to be sarcastic, i was using it as an example; if someone would misunderstand that post as sarastic, then… (i should have been referring to kaylasdad99 post)
califboomer:
billy: good post, but a wrong conclusion.
notthemama: have you noticed me chasing coldfire around, looking for headbashing?
coldfire: goes both ways, doesnt it coldfire?(misinterpeting) - sorry ive got to quote this:
HELLO!!!
wallym7: i have? when? where? how? why?..WHAT?
Jezebel: which is why people shouldnt go personal… it will confuse those who are new to the topic/forum/board. sarcasm also often referres to old posts/previous history between two or more posters, that has the same effect.
should we act as it was our first post every time we post in a new thread?
No, but I don’t see you backing off, either. Obviously, you must enjoy it, or else you wouldn’t do it. I’ve been reading the old threads in the Archives, and I notice that for every “Bjorn” who stands his ground when Coldfire starts swinging, there are at least a dozen other posters who scuttle away to the relative safety of MPSIMS or GQ after only one or two exchanges.
So, I come to the conclusion that you must enjoy it, or else you wouldn’t do it.
“Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast!” - the White Queen
No, I do not think that people should post as if it were their first time. That makes no sense. I was addressing my comments to those who were jumping in here and elsewhere (the threads are so intertwined now that anyone who follows one must follow all) and bringing people up on personal comments. If you and Coldfire and Rousseau want to go at it tooth and nail, go for it. There’s a history there, obviously. But the others who haven’t taken the time to read old threads and think that what is on this thread (or either of the other two) is the only relevant part of the exchange need to either go back and read all the rest or shut up about it. I recognize that when there are personal conflicts between established board denizens the newbies do not take sides.
Yes, they would. And if you have a particular problem with either of them, it’s your right to tell them so. Personally, I sometimes have found bj0rn’s posts incomprehensible and (as an American) downright insulting, and Coldfire makes me laugh out loud. Which means that I will tend to agree with Coldfire (and Rousseau) and some of their assessments of bj0rn’s “style”. But upbraiding either for their particular problems with each other is a bit rich. If they want to verbally kill each other on the board… well, I’m not a moderator, so it doesn’t concern me at all.
Jezebel,
Yes, but isn’t it fun to watch? I mean sometimes you have to stoke a fire to keep it going. But alas, I should move past these threads and contribute something meaningful.
(Flyhalf trying to avoid getting put on Satans’ “newbies who suck” list)
When you know that your time is close at hand
Maybe then you’ll begin to understand
Life down here is just a strange illusion
bj0rn, do you have the faintest idea what you’re talking about? Do you know how stupid you sound? How does a reader use sarcasm? And if so, how would he (she) use it “incorrectly?”
Oh really? Okay, now you’re contradicting yourself. You’ve said “if someone uses sarcasm and another person doesn’t get it, it’s an incorrect usage of sarcasm on the reader’s part” [I know, folks, but let’s just play along for the moment…]. Now you’re saying that if you used sarcasm in all your posts and we (the readers) didn’t get it (I can’t imagine why we wouldn’t…), then you would be using sarcasm incorrectly. So how exactly do you distinguish between when it’s the writer’s fault and when it’s the reader’s fault (if we are assuming…nay, pretending that sarcasm can in fact be used incorrectly)?
Okay, bj0rn. Demonstrate for us if you will, right now, the “right” way to use sarcasm, and the “wrong” way to use sarcasm.
(Once again, this ought to be rich.)
“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it.” -Winston Churchill
Jezebel,
To my knowledge, he doesn’t really have a list of that sort. It’s just that I was reading another thread and he said something to the effect of “aren’t there any newbies here who don’t suck?”.
I thought about replying but figured that would automatically get me on “the list”.
When you know that your time is close at hand
Maybe then you’ll begin to understand
Life down here is just a strange illusion
